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Re: That Argentinan Woman [ljflx] by jimbres
Jul 01, 2009 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jul 01, 2009 10:57 am)

If that battery dies on you can you still get in the car?
 
I can answer this! Just yesterday, my wife was locked out of her Lexus after the battery in her key fob died. Fortunately, she was only a mile from home, & the 2nd fob still worked.
 
She took delivery of the car in September, 2006, so the battery lasted for a couple of months shy of 3 years.
 
Her Lexus dealer charged $10 to replace the battery.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [jimbres] by sanjaysdca
Jul 01, 2009 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: jimbres (Jul 01, 2009 12:34 pm)

Infinitis have an advantage here as they have a mechanical key that will open the door then you put the key fob in the slot to start the car.
 
The Infiniti dealer in here in San Diego pointed this fact when I was out test driving M. I am surprised that lexus does not have this feature.
 
I am not a luddite... but sometime too much technology is not good (IMHO)
 
Sanjay
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [sanjaysdca] by rockshocka1
Jul 01, 2009 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Jul 01, 2009 3:25 pm)

Ditto on Audi. The cut key releases out of the fob to unlock the door in the event of battery failure. Put it back together & into the slot to fire up the car.
 
I find it hard to believe that any maufacturer would rely solely on the remote fob to unlock the car. Neither safe nor smart.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [sanjaysdca] by jimbres
Jul 01, 2009 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Jul 01, 2009 3:25 pm)

After reading your post, I retrieved the owner's manual from my wife's car & learned that a mechanical key is actually stored inside the key fob. In the event of battery failure, you use the mechanical key to open the doors. Then you hold the fob up to the start button until a buzzer sounds, at which time you should be able to start the car.
 
Our salesman demonstrated this procedure when we took delivery, but I had forgotten all about it.
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Lexus and MB Marriage?? by circlew
Jul 01, 2009 (6:03 pm)
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Will wonders never cease?
 
Per a new auto motor und sport report, Toyota has entered into talks with Daimler – the parent company of Mercedes-Benz – about a potential partnership. The tie-up would reportedly see Toyota producing its own versions of Mercedes’ A- and B-Class vehicles on its MC platform and could even include the co-development of the automakers’ flagship models – the Lexus LS and Mercedes-Benz S-Class.

ToyBenz
 
Interesting...high quality M-B's?
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: July 1 Gas Update [circlew] by tagman
Jul 01, 2009 (8:11 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 01, 2009 10:09 am)

Just a tidbit to keep the fires stoked...
 
With prices up almost 100% at the peak from the low... a 10%, 12%, 15%, or even a 20% decline is just a normal retreat. Nothing like the "bottom falling out" or "going off a cliff". We've already discussed this. It is going to take a major crash in prices to get my attention. I think it is entirely possible that we are already entering into a whole new world economy anyway. Unfortuntately, the old rules might not work like we think they should.
 
BTW, I saw another white new generation Prius today, on the Pacific Coast Highway, right here in Malibu. (Saw a Rolls Royce as well... ha... there is some serious money here in this town.) Anyway, the Prius looks much better than the previous generation it replaces. (The Prius owner probably has more money than the Rolls owner... LOL.)
 
TM
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [ljflx] by tagman
Jul 01, 2009 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jul 01, 2009 10:57 am)

I also have lost car ambitions which is why I hardly ever discuss them anymore.
 
Sign of the times.
 
I think many of us have higher or different priorities now. I certainly do. Shifted priorities can take a fair share of the wind out of the sail when it comes to lusting for a machine that will cost a lot of green to acquire, operate, and maintain.
 
Len, hope you are having a great summer!
 
TM
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Re: July 1 Gas Update [tagman] by circlew
Jul 02, 2009 (2:51 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 01, 2009 8:11 pm)

Regarding OIL, I agree the rules have changed but the market manipulation is alive and well. Sooner or later, the bubble being formed now will balance to the downside. The economic recovery is not entering the upside of a v shape.
 
I did not like the previous 2 generations of the Prius but the new one is much better to look at. Needs a bit better design flow AFAIC, however.
 
Somehow, this lends to the near future of Government Motors....
 

 
and this a stark contrast and begs of the Bernie Madoff era.
 

 
Regards,
OW
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [ljflx] by lexusguy
Jul 02, 2009 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jul 01, 2009 10:57 am)

I also have lost car ambitions which is why I hardly ever discuss them anymore.
 
I've actually found that I'm much more interested in cars now than I have been in years. As I mentioned earlier, there was a time were I just wanted a comfortable, reliable car, and I didn't really care about mid-cycle updates or the next big thing. My LS400 really wasn't that different from my last W140 Benz other than it actually worked properly. There were no advanced communication and control systems that separated the brands, and even the styling of the full size luxury cars at the time was basically the same.
 
The Lexus had much better ergonomics than the Germans, and it was probably the first to start the audiophile sound system ball rolling with the Nakamichi setup. That was enough.
 
Now though, were on the cusp of a major shift in how cars are designed, as big as the change from the '60s to the '70s. This time though it will be a positive change. Instead of pathetic, dying muscle cars with emissions choked 7 litre V8s producing less than 200hp, we're going to see radically lightened cars made of aluminum and composite materials, with powerful engines using all of the variable timing, direct injection, and sequential turbo charging tricks.
 
The normally aspirated V8s, V10,s and V12s will give way to turbo and supercharged (or both as in some VWs) 4 and 6 cylinder engines, hopefully with HCCI technology sooner rather than later. Eventually the ICE will disappear completely, but before that happens, there's going to be some great cars.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [tagman] by ljflx
Jul 02, 2009 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 01, 2009 8:28 pm)

Len, hope you are having a great summer!
 
Awful weather here in June - worst I've ever seen but it's a lot worse in New England. Here in central NJ we've finally broken into summer with 8 straight 80+ degree days but from NYC northeast they are still having a lot of gloom and doom June like weather. Here, just 35 miles SSW of NYC we've had 8 straight days of pool weather and with a little help from the pool heater my water is holding steady around 85-86 degrees. To my weather expertise it looks like we get hot after the first week of July in this area thru lower conneticut at least.
 
My mother broke her hip a few weeks ago but is now recovering. She should be back on her feet in early august. Business remains strong with a lot of opportunity.
 
You and I are on different pages on oil. Proper fundamental price is 20+ bucks cheaper than it is and I still see it falling back to the 40's. Pure speculation and fear of unwarranted inflation has driven prices but w/o fundamental support that can't hold. How do you make a currency out of a commodity that is not in high demand and there's tons of production capacity on the side. Hedge funds and Goldman Sachs have tried, using everything from 20:1 leverage to nicaragua to again using China stockpiling as false demand but I don't see it happening. We are at an 18 year high in oil inventories, a 22 year high in distillates and gas inventory is now growing robustly. Fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals.
 
Of bigger concern to me is that fears of inflation that don't exist, along with hedge fund investing (and their pied piper followers) will crimp/slow a more robust recovery by keeping commodities out of sync witth fundamentals until such bubbles burst rapidly. All Obama has to do is take these huge leverage ratios out of commodity investing and we'll get more in-sync markets. It makes no sense to have leverage ratios as high as 20:1 in small markets when you have 2:1 ratios in large markets like stocks. The higher the leverage ratio the greater the manipulation. Plus the biggest fear is fear itself.
 
Hope all is well for you.
 
Where's Charlie?

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