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July 1 Gas Update by circlew
Jul 01, 2009 (10:09 am)
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Just a tidbit to keep the fires stoked...
 
Gas Futures Tumble
 
Tsakos Energy Navigation Ltd. Chief Executive Officer Nikolas Tsakos today said 60 million barrels of refined oil products are being stored on ships at sea.
 
“That volume at sea is going to weigh on the market come winter,” said Lipow.

 
Regards,
OW
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [dewey] by ljflx
Jul 01, 2009 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jun 29, 2009 10:41 am)

Good to see you back Dewey. You had some of us worried. I also have lost car ambitions which is why I hardly ever discuss them anymore. I simply take what best suits me at the time I need a car and hardly care about anyone's perception of it. Best of luck with the Prius.
 
BTW - Brought the Infiniti in for service and my keyless entry key fob device was low on battery power. I'm not even sure how I check this on the GL450 or LS460L. I now realize what that battery signal on the dash means when I turn on the G. In the past I noticed it but never really looked long or hard enough to see that it was giving you a battery charge level on the keyless entry key fob. If that battery dies on you can you still get in the car? and if you do can you start it with that key fob in the ignition? These are little details I never thought about or read up on, nor were they pointed out by Infiniti, Lexus or MB dealers on car delivery.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [ljflx] by jimbres
Jul 01, 2009 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jul 01, 2009 10:57 am)

If that battery dies on you can you still get in the car?
 
I can answer this! Just yesterday, my wife was locked out of her Lexus after the battery in her key fob died. Fortunately, she was only a mile from home, & the 2nd fob still worked.
 
She took delivery of the car in September, 2006, so the battery lasted for a couple of months shy of 3 years.
 
Her Lexus dealer charged $10 to replace the battery.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [jimbres] by sanjaysdca
Jul 01, 2009 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: jimbres (Jul 01, 2009 12:34 pm)

Infinitis have an advantage here as they have a mechanical key that will open the door then you put the key fob in the slot to start the car.
 
The Infiniti dealer in here in San Diego pointed this fact when I was out test driving M. I am surprised that lexus does not have this feature.
 
I am not a luddite... but sometime too much technology is not good (IMHO)
 
Sanjay
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [sanjaysdca] by rockshocka1
Jul 01, 2009 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Jul 01, 2009 3:25 pm)

Ditto on Audi. The cut key releases out of the fob to unlock the door in the event of battery failure. Put it back together & into the slot to fire up the car.
 
I find it hard to believe that any maufacturer would rely solely on the remote fob to unlock the car. Neither safe nor smart.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [sanjaysdca] by jimbres
Jul 01, 2009 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Jul 01, 2009 3:25 pm)

After reading your post, I retrieved the owner's manual from my wife's car & learned that a mechanical key is actually stored inside the key fob. In the event of battery failure, you use the mechanical key to open the doors. Then you hold the fob up to the start button until a buzzer sounds, at which time you should be able to start the car.
 
Our salesman demonstrated this procedure when we took delivery, but I had forgotten all about it.
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Lexus and MB Marriage?? by circlew
Jul 01, 2009 (6:03 pm)
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Will wonders never cease?
 
Per a new auto motor und sport report, Toyota has entered into talks with Daimler – the parent company of Mercedes-Benz – about a potential partnership. The tie-up would reportedly see Toyota producing its own versions of Mercedes’ A- and B-Class vehicles on its MC platform and could even include the co-development of the automakers’ flagship models – the Lexus LS and Mercedes-Benz S-Class.

ToyBenz
 
Interesting...high quality M-B's?
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: July 1 Gas Update [circlew] by tagman
Jul 01, 2009 (8:11 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 01, 2009 10:09 am)

Just a tidbit to keep the fires stoked...
 
With prices up almost 100% at the peak from the low... a 10%, 12%, 15%, or even a 20% decline is just a normal retreat. Nothing like the "bottom falling out" or "going off a cliff". We've already discussed this. It is going to take a major crash in prices to get my attention. I think it is entirely possible that we are already entering into a whole new world economy anyway. Unfortuntately, the old rules might not work like we think they should.
 
BTW, I saw another white new generation Prius today, on the Pacific Coast Highway, right here in Malibu. (Saw a Rolls Royce as well... ha... there is some serious money here in this town.) Anyway, the Prius looks much better than the previous generation it replaces. (The Prius owner probably has more money than the Rolls owner... LOL.)
 
TM
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [ljflx] by tagman
Jul 01, 2009 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jul 01, 2009 10:57 am)

I also have lost car ambitions which is why I hardly ever discuss them anymore.
 
Sign of the times.
 
I think many of us have higher or different priorities now. I certainly do. Shifted priorities can take a fair share of the wind out of the sail when it comes to lusting for a machine that will cost a lot of green to acquire, operate, and maintain.
 
Len, hope you are having a great summer!
 
TM
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Re: July 1 Gas Update [tagman] by circlew
Jul 02, 2009 (2:51 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 01, 2009 8:11 pm)

Regarding OIL, I agree the rules have changed but the market manipulation is alive and well. Sooner or later, the bubble being formed now will balance to the downside. The economic recovery is not entering the upside of a v shape.
 
I did not like the previous 2 generations of the Prius but the new one is much better to look at. Needs a bit better design flow AFAIC, however.
 
Somehow, this lends to the near future of Government Motors....
 

 
and this a stark contrast and begs of the Bernie Madoff era.
 

 
Regards,
OW

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