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That Argentinan Woman by dewey
Jun 29, 2009 (10:41 am)
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I am sorry folks that I had disappeared for so long.
 
But here's what happened:
 
A UFO kidnapped me and dropped me off somewhere in Argentina where I was embraced for many months by a vivacious and senusuous tango woman who would just not let me go.
 
OK, ok that excuse could have been used by a South Carolinan politician but I guess it wont work here or with my wife.
 
Now here's the truth and nothing but the truth which in fact more shocking than my UFO excuse.
 
I HATE CARS!
 
Yes folks that is the truth. After the #***!!!! experiences with my BMW 335i I feel de-sensitized from any emotions with respect to cars. None whatsoever.
 
So how do I feel about that?
 
Here's the truth which of you fellows may hate. I feel great!!!
 
Tomorrow I am selling my dream machine BMW 335i and picking up instead my spanking new Arctic White Microwave called the 2010 Prius. I have never felt better because now I have escaped that perpetual treadmill called the "New Car Syndrome". Everytime I bought a new car I always anticipated what my next car will be in the future and became obsessed with that future car even during the first day of buying a brand new car. That my friends is sort of like having Argentinian fantasies during your wedding night.
 
 Tomorrow I couldn't care less what my next car will be after the Prius. And that folks in itself feels refreshing since I am no long enslaved by that "distant future car" that has always ruled my life.
 
I know the wonders of being enthusiastic about cars and I dont mean to be judgemental towards anybdody within this forum who has such enthusiasms. All I want to say is that life without being a car enthusiast is equally wonderful if not better.
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Re: A Couple of Questions for the Lux Board [circlew] by blckislandguy
Jun 29, 2009 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jun 29, 2009 2:53 am)

Thanks. The voices of reason.
 
As a side note, do you agree with me that the new E Class with its AMG-ish front end is going to hurt new S sales and lower the prices of used S's??
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Re: A Couple of Questions for the Lux Board [lexusguy] by blckislandguy
Jun 29, 2009 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 29, 2009 12:41 am)

Lexusguy, thanks for your thoughts all of which make sense. However, there is nothing like the acceleration of the W12. I drove a S550 back to back with the Bentley and the acceleration difference was night and day. (This of course is a meaningless distinction unless one has the hormones of a 16 year old underneath his Brooks Bros golf shirt and kahkis.)
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [dewey] by tagman
Jun 29, 2009 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jun 29, 2009 10:41 am)

I feel de-sensitized from any emotions with respect to cars. None whatsoever.
 
Well, well, if it isn't the return from who knows where!
 
Welcome back to Hotel California, as you once told me after I made a lengthy departure.
 
Let me just say that I know darned well you have emotions surrounding your new Prius. The first G3 Prius I ever saw in real life on the road happened yesterday... a white one. I like it better than the previous model by far.
 
A part of me was jealous... that bastard was driving one of the latest high-tech cars in the world, getting at least 50 mpg, and merrily rolling along at 75+ mph on California's Highway 5. What could I do? Blow by him with my twin turbos? I knew it wouldn't matter to him, because he was happy in his Prius as he passed all the gas stations on his trip South. All his passengers were supremely comfy and he didn't need to compete with anyone.
 
I'd have to say he was content... as you now are. Content and satisfied with your new car. You love your Prius, and we all know it, because of all the posts that preceded your purchase.
 
I applaud you. You have evolved and matured in your perspective of automobiles and their role in this world. Yours is more of a cognitive enthusiasm. Me? I'm still a kid at heart and need to step on the gas and have some silly fun on the roads, and connect to some good feelings behind the wheel... less cognitive and more emotional. Nothing wrong with that either.
 
But... I repeat... you do NOT hate cars. You love your Prius... as you should.
 
Congratulations Dewey. I am glad for you. Truly.
 
Please tell me your impressions of your Prius after you have driven it for a while.
 
TM
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Re: A Couple of Questions for the Lux Board [lexusguy] by tagman
Jun 29, 2009 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 29, 2009 12:41 am)

If the LS simply isn't an option, my next choice would probably be a CPO S8 or W12 that I'd keep for 3-4 years or so, and then move on.
 
I was under the impression BIG wants AWD... therefore I put the S8 in first position on my recommendation to him. Perhaps I misunderstood?
 
TM
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Re: A Couple of Questions for the Lux Board [tagman] by lexusguy
Jun 30, 2009 (12:32 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jun 29, 2009 8:01 pm)

I was under the impression BIG wants AWD...
 
Right. LS460 AWD, or LS460L AWD.
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Re: A Couple of Questions for the Lux Board [blckislandguy] by lexusguy
Jun 30, 2009 (1:05 am)
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Jun 29, 2009 6:28 pm)

However, there is nothing like the acceleration of the W12. I drove a S550 back to back with the Bentley and the acceleration difference was night and day
 
Yeah, I know. It's too bad Mercedes doesn't make AWD versions of their AMG cars, as the AMG S class has always had steep depreciation, and an S63 would close the acceleration gap significantly. An '08 is less than $90K.
 
For me, I just can't imagine a situation where I would need more than the S8's 450hp. The S8 also looks crisp and modern compared to the somewhat (IMO) bulbous and doughy Spur, and the Spur's interior reminds me too much of the bad old days that Jaguar will be leaving behind with the new XJ. The materials are very nice sure, but there's too much of that "ye olde Arnage" look in there.
 
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BIG by m4d_cow
Jun 30, 2009 (3:43 am)
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From what I heard Bentley use Yokohama Advans in Spurs because it's the only one that can be pumped up at such high pressure to withstand super high-speed driving.
 
Regardless, I don't think Spur is a good purchase. Sure it looks cool, classy outside and so darn luxurious inside, but imagine the maintenance costs. Makes me shiver just thinking about it, and Spurs around my area (unlike it's sibling Continental GT) tend to have myriad minor problems. Minor in problem, hefty in price.
 
Just my 2 cents.
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Re: That Argentinan Woman [dewey] by lexusguy
Jun 30, 2009 (3:55 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jun 29, 2009 10:41 am)

Here's the truth which of you fellows may hate. I feel great!!!
 
I know how you feel. Years ago I had simply had it with Mercedes and their service. I was done with what was at the time the luxury brand. I just wanted a spacious, comfortable car with big leather seats that would work like it was supposed to, and a dealer service department that did not act like they were doing me a favor by pretending to fix my car yet again.
 
The LS400 was that car. Sure it looked boring and was boring, but it got the job done, day in and day out. An XJ or 7 would've been just as likely to be a nightmare as my Mercedes, and I wasn't willing to go down that road again.
 
I was satisfied with the LS and its LS430 replacement for quite awhile, but eventually I wanted a bit of fun from my daily driver again. I'm still generally not interested in Mercedes products (partly because of my history with them and partly because I just don't like their designs), and I suspect you may feel the same towards BMW for quite awhile.
 
However, you may find in 5 years, 10 years, or sometime down the line as I did, that you have an interest in cars again and the Prius is no longer enough.
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Re: A Couple of Questions for the Lux Board [lexusguy] by tagman
Jun 30, 2009 (4:59 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 30, 2009 12:32 am)

"Right. LS460 AWD, or LS460L AWD."
 
I am shocked at your perspective. I would have thought that the requirement for AWD would have put the Audi S8 so far at the top, it would have ruled out an LS entirely... yet you put the LS on top of the S8. Personally, I admit I did not consider an AWD LS to be a worthy AWD candidate anywhere near the same league as an S8. Heck, I even thought about BMW AWD, but I still put the S8 first.
 
Interesting you recommended an LS. After you bought your own LS, you eventually needed more than it could deliver. I usually understand your point of view, but I don't get it this time.
 
I still think the S8 is the obvious standout recommendation,... by a country mile. The S8's exterior style, interior style, and performance all blow the LS off the map.
 
TM

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