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Replying to: bigbuck16 (Jun 15, 2009 7:26 am) The old LS was an unappreciated gem that could hold its own against the BMWs & MBs of the late 90s/early 2000s. Even if the MKS is better than comparably priced offerings from Lexus - I'm not sure that it is - that's not good enough. The Germans are the top dogs in the luxury market, & Lincoln's goal should be to run with them. |
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Replying to: bigbuck16 (Jun 15, 2009 7:26 am) That's rather arguable. The MKS is sized like an LS460, but it can't match the power, or any of the luxury, and the MKS's V6 is no more efficient than the LS's V8. The LS doesn't look like much, but I've seen the MKS in person, and it just looks like a big blob. The styling is about as generic as you can possibly get. The interior simply does not look or feel like a premium product. The LS's interior design is uninteresting, but the materials quality is there. The biggest problem with the MKS is that the Taurus is the same car, the interior is basically the same quality, and the Ford version is the much better looking of the two. The MKS is priced at the level of the GS, which is a rather weak target. Still, the GS350 offers more power and more efficiency at the same time. The GS is badly packaged and space is lacking, no argument there. The GS's interior, like most Lexus products of late has far too much plastic and vinyl, but its still definitely a step ahead of the MKS, which I would equate with the Genesis and RL. I think the MKS is a much better product than the Cadillac DTS, and it's a possible alternative to Genesis buyers, but I don't see Lexus worrying about it too much. What Lincoln should do is make a product to challenge the E-class. That's what people buy more than anything else in the $40-60K class, and with the new one now being more affordable than the 5 thanks to Mercedes' huge price cuts, I think it's going to continue to dominate the segment.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 16, 2009 1:06 am)  It's not a terrible looking car, but the low grade interior and gargantuan body on a FWD chassis just makes me turn the other way in disgust.  However, if the 2010 Taurus (SHO) is any indicator the new interior will be quite nice. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 16, 2009 1:06 am) |
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So far today, iPhone version 3.0 is good. My phone hasn't crashed or shown any bugs. But, I looked at the Palm Pre yesterday. Nice, but the keys on the keyboard are the tiniest I've ever seen... very difficult to type. I've got big hands, so it's even worse for me. Otherwise, terrific interface, and I really liked it. TM
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Hi As things have been slow, I priced a two year extended warranty on the Audi, and it was around seventeen hundred---the bmw was raound two thousand two hundred....As neither model will be new for a year or so, I thought I might get these...Have you or anyone had any experience with buyingan extended warranty? and do you think I need one Tony
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Replying to: anthonyp (Jun 17, 2009 12:46 pm) It's worth noting that none of the recognized authorities on personal finance recommends extended warranties on appliances or vehicles. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 07, 2009 12:06 am) I have been away from my computer for a few days, but one of my friends saw this comment and was amused since this is what I say about Toyota. IMHO they make cars for women and men who don't like cars. Saab was never intended to be a luxury brand. This I agree with, Saab was the VW of Sweden, along with Volvo. Volvo, even in the US was not a luxury brand on the onset. The 760 of the 80s might have been close, but it was really Ford trying to make it something it wasn't that led to its sale to Geeley. They've only ever attempted two luxury cars, the Fiat based 9000 and the Opel Vectra based 9-5. In typical Saab fashion both ran/will run for 13 years, and both weren't any good. I don't necessarily agree with this either, the 80s Saab 9000 could swallow a couch, offered good driving dynamics, reasonable economy and excellent durability. I don't have experience with the newer generations. Today, Saab is just a dumping ground for leftover GM platforms, mostly for Europeans who don't want to be seen with the Opel/Vauxhall badge. True, and a sad end, IMHO.
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Replying to: tagman (Jun 17, 2009 11:50 am) The keyboard really ruins the Pre for me also. If the keyboard slid out of the side (and it wasn't Sprint only), I would be a lot more interested. Palm says a real SDK is on the way, and they will be porting WebOS to different form factors, unlike the love it or leave it iPhone. If something interesting shows up on the AT&T roster (or at least an unlocked GSM phone for EU markets that I can buy and use on AT&T) then I'll definitely consider it. From what I've seen so far, WebOS does look pretty cool.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jun 17, 2009 2:49 pm) No argument from me there. I had the extreme displeasure of driving a Camry SE recently. Just awful. It had the trifecta - uncomfortable seats, incredibly light and numb steering with buckets of on center slop, and interior plastics so cheap even GM wouldn't use them, plus a horrible mouse fur headliner. If that's what Toyota thinks is "sporty", I shudder to think about what the standard Camry is like to drive. Saab is a bit better than that, but anyone seriously interested in performance or luxury is going to buy German. Even the Passat is more luxurious and much better to drive than anything Saab makes. At the other end, you have cars like the Mazda6 and Nissan Maxima that are still better to drive, are more affordable, and likely to be much more reliable than a Saab. I just don't see the point. |
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