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21396 messages, Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 9:00 AM
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Replying to: jimbres (Apr 22, 2009 5:49 am) IMHO... TM
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 21, 2009 11:04 pm) TM
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 22, 2009 7:40 am) We'll see. The old 5 absolutely dominated the segment. The current 5 has had to deal with significantly stronger competition that are in many ways better cars. IMO, Audi and Infiniti's rate of improvement is faster than BMW's at this point, and I think the 3 will eventually be "among the best" in the segment, similar to the 5, as opposed to "the best".
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 22, 2009 10:56 am) TM
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 22, 2009 11:36 am) As the owner of an older E46 ('01 330i), I'm not exactly smitten with the E90/E92 cars. I spent a couple of hours earlier this year behind the wheel of an '09 328xi coupe & didn't feel even the slightest urge to trade in my car. While I liked some of the new features - the heated steering wheel is particularly neat - I didn't think that the '09 is in any way more fun to drive than my 8-year-old car. It's a good car that does all of the important stuff well, but I don't lust after it.
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Replying to: jimbres (Apr 22, 2009 12:45 pm) In a sense, your post is a testimony to the point that there is often less room for improvement to a car that has already achieved a long-standing benchmark status. It's a good car that does all of the important stuff well, but I don't lust after it. To lust after the non-M 3-Series, I'd have to point out it's most potent engine choice... the N54. Otherwise, the M3 may be the way to go for those needing even larger doses of horsepower. From my experience with the 300/300 TT N54, I can only tell you that it is damn near the most enjoyable engine overall that I've ever owned... especially packaged in the 1-Series convertible. I do honestly wish it had even more power, and if BMW releases their package to get about 7-10% more from the engine, I'll gladly pay the price. I wish it would be more than that, but I'll take what I can get. I'm sure if they extracted too much out of the N54, the M3 would be less of a leap, so marketing might play a big role in limiting the N54. TM |
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 21, 2009 10:46 pm) Alright. I deserve that for not checking in with my favorite carnuts. Those Jag pics are lost to me also. The lines fail to come together to make one solid piece like the XF. The side view lines, the hood strakes, and sloping rear roof make for a very busy and very un-Jag car. For sure they will clean it up because that new 7 -Series looks down right impressive by comparison. And with the new A8 looming, Jag had better got with it. I did hear that the S400 and S450 have been greenlighted for US export. I wonder what took so long for them to send over the S450 amyway? Oh well... While I do not doubt the E-Classes performance, it's the rear end that I will have to see in person because it does not appeal to me on print. The interior seems to build on the GLK and C but taking a notch upward. We shall soon see. |
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 22, 2009 7:52 am) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: jimbres (Apr 22, 2009 12:45 pm) Have you driven the TT version? Let me know if it changes your view if you get a chance. Better yet, try TM's car, the drop-top 135i. Let us know what you think! Both it and the G are on the top of my list. I need to drive the Audi for comparison sake Regards, OW
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Here it is... straight from the Shanghai Auto show... the "Geely Ge"... Chinese Rolls Royce... No kidding...      link title TM |
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