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Replying to: dewey (Mar 27, 2009 7:41 pm) The NY Times has this review of the Prius in the Sunday auto section. I'm a subscriber so I got the supplement today and just read it and it's now online so I linked it below. I think you'll like the review and incredibly the author got 69mpg on a 34 mile trip with a pulse and glide driving technique. I gotta tell you I'm even getting interested in this car now. If you read the link, click on the graph for a look at many hybrids. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/automobiles/autoreviews/29AUTO.html?_r=1&scp=2- - &sq=toyota%20prius&st=cse |
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Replying to: ljflx (Mar 28, 2009 4:58 pm) Yeah, that cooktop is awesome. We like those special "extra low" setttings on 2 of the six burners that automatically cycle the gas burners on and off when you need to keep something warm indefinitely without ever burning it... ours is only six burners because there is also a large built-in griddle. It's also got those infra red warming lights built into that huge exhaust hood... and the warming drawer on the side. Like you, have the extra tap at the sink with reverse-osmosis filtration... also provides filtered "instant hot". We like having a cool kitchen... lots of time spent there. But I've got to tell you... my favorite areas are my Bar-B-Que & outdoor entertainment Cabana, which is absolutely amazing beyond your imagination... and also my home theater system, which is very good, although starting to show a little age, with some of these very latest devices that have come to market. When I move, I will miss my Bar-B-Que / entertainment Cabana the most. Hopefully, I will build another similar setup one day. TM |
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Replying to: bmlexus (Mar 28, 2009 6:29 pm) Bmlexus, I paid $62.5k. Original '07 sticker was $101.8k, an '09 would sticker at about $104k. Car had 26k miles - but the Mercedes Certified Pre-Owned program gave it brand new tires, new brakes, and a complete 26k miles "B" service (including oil change, new brake fluid, cabin filter, etc.). So it's about as close to new as you can get. |
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Replying to: ljflx (Mar 28, 2009 4:58 pm) I agree - the thing I miss the most about the Lexus is the touch screen interface, especially for the NAV system. But I sure don't miss the legal screen that required a touch of the "I Agree" button on my '05 LS. And the handling of the S is really superior to my LS. And I think your 460L is almost as big as the S550 (maybe an inch smaller?). So you're probably well-adapted by now to the size increase over your old LS. It's really interesting to see people now so willing to cross over between the German vs. Japanese manufacturers. We've come a long way from the oac vs. Merc wars, haven't we? I now have 2 Lexi and 3 MBs in the family fleet. And I still would love to hear designman's opinion on the new 7 series....
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Replying to: ljflx (Mar 28, 2009 7:59 pm) Len, I'm glad to see you are interested in the Prius yourself. Other than Dewey, I've been one of the most obvious supporters of the Prius on this board. In many ways, it goes against the grain of every car I've ever owned, yet it is a technological marvel that I can't help from being impressed with. As, I've posted before, I truly hope that Dewey gets one. For me, it's still too early to consider one. We still have the BMW 135i, Jaguar Vanden Plas, Ford Escape Limited Hybrid, and the Acura MDX. No room for a Prius just yet. TM
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Replying to: garyh1 (Mar 28, 2009 9:28 pm) Gary, That statement reminds me of some of the huge arguments that used to go on here. I can remember making the case for driving dynamics and superior handling, but there were some here that just didn't "get it". Now, we have you and Len driving Mercedes Benz as well as Lexus, and you both have praised and appreciated the Mercedes' handling. To quote the late Jackie Gleason... "How sweet it is!" And I still would love to hear designman's opinion on the new 7 series.... OMG, yes... that would be a real treat. TM |
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Replying to: tagman (Mar 28, 2009 9:41 pm) If you recall Tag, I was always in the middle of those arguments, since I drove MBs (and before that BMW) for years before I got the LS in 10/04. And I went for the LS because of its "value proposition" and even more importantly the reliability issue that has recently driven dewey crazy with his bimmer. The W211 E-class and the W220 S-class were just not well-made cars compared to the Lexus LS430, even if they drove wonderfully. My LS was never as good a handler as my older MBs, but it was "good enough" for me given its much superior reliability to the then-current MBs. Hearing Len talk about his satisfaction with his 460L and seeing recent reports on MB's much-improved reliability, clearly the lines are coming closer together. And that's great for all luxury car buyers.
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Replying to: garyh1 (Mar 28, 2009 10:30 pm) You typcially had a balanced perspective, as I also recall... and I see that you haven't lost it. I think it is terrific, however, to see you in a "new" Mercedes S-Class. What a terrific car. I have maintained that the S-Class is king of the hill in its category and at a tad over $60K for all that you acquired, you have really hit a grand slam. Personally, I think it is good to see so many of us with combinations of German and Japanese cars. I currently have vehicles from Germany, Great Britain, Japan, and USA. There are things I can appreciate about all of them, but the handling goes to the Germans. The reliability goes to Jaguar... TM |
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Get ready to experience Honda's ad campaign for the new Insight. Here's one of the first commercials we can expect to see. It may not seem like it, but the focus is actually on affordability. I didn't check to see which agency is responsible for the ad, but from my perspective, I don't think the ad is as powerful as it could have been, and I'd have to say Honda didn't get their money's worth. Of course, it is early to make a complete determination, as I would expect that the ad campaign should have follow-up ads that evolve the message further within the same theme. I certainly hope so. link title TM |
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