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Replying to: tagman (Mar 26, 2009 1:10 pm) We'll have to see if they are still around in 2011, when production on the sedan is supposed to start. Tesla has serious money problems, they basically can't survive without a cash infusion from the government. An electric E and 5 fighter is also a very different animal from what is essentially an Elise with thousands of notebook batteries shoved into it. I also think the giant touch screen center stack is a big mistake. They should remember the digital dashes of the '80s, and why those aren't around anymore. The general interior design also seems to be a near carbon copy of the A6, right down to the Audi parts bin headlight switch. Is there something I'm missing here?   
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Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 26, 2009 4:58 pm) |
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Replying to: bmlexus (Mar 26, 2009 9:44 am) But I can tell you there's a lot of good financial banter here from some real high level and experienced business pros. Also I would think that status of the economy is in lock step with discussions about how well some of these high lux companies will do and as such, be able to innovate in the future.
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Replying to: bmlexus (Mar 26, 2009 9:44 am) |
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Replying to: tagman (Mar 26, 2009 11:16 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (Mar 26, 2009 5:05 am) Mark to market accounting does have an adverse affect on the required capital ratios as defined by various regulators for financial institutions. Write offs due to mark to market accounting are causing capital ratios to fall steeply and as a result we have massive government capital infusions boosting capital ratios back to their former levels. These massively government infusions are destablizing the US and various other countries balance sheets All of these capital infusions can be considered senseless when "mark to market valuations" reflects serious illiquidity issues versus the "real cash flows of those assets. Here's the solution: Regulators should not solely use "mark to market" accounting but other valuation methods/models that are more "cash flow based" in order to figure out whether a firm has enough capital . But here's where I beg to differ. For all users of financial reports other than regulators "mark to market accounting should remain the sole valuation tool for financial securities (liquid and illiquid). Why? Because any other valuation method will be based on management models and opinions about risks which as you know will likely be highly biased or even deceitful. And as you also know using historical costs would be completely useless and irrelevant for all financial report users. So you may ask why should regulators be allowed to have more valuation options than a general public investor? The answer to that is a regulator can get legal access to corporate inside information. In the case of a public investor such access to inside information is illegal . With this advantage regulators are better informed to make judements on management risk models and valuations than any public investor. With this scenario the public investors best bet is mark to market accounting since all other models are based on biased management assumptions in which a public investor may not be able to verify. |
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Replying to: jlbl (Mar 26, 2009 7:02 am) interesting perspective. What truly amazes me is how universal the housing market has become. In the past decade or so real estate prices in almost every corner of the world bubble up and simultenously bubbled down. Recently there were predictions that most of the world would be decoupled from the US subprime mess since subprime mortgages hardly exists anywhere else. Well guess what? Most of the world especially those without subprime mortgages are suffering the same fate as the US housing market. |
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Replying to: tagman (Mar 26, 2009 1:10 pm) What does a Telsa go for? $104K ? I wouldn't even spend $104K to own all of Chrysler Corp let alone a single car from that company.
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Wow! Read how this reviewer loves the Prius. I have never ever read any reviewer this excited about a non-Italian sports car. link title Turns out this reviewer got significantly better mileage than the EPA 52 figure. All the technology in this car and all the engineering involved to produce a car at this price is quite remarkable. Talking about Toyota I am going with my family to London, England sometime in June. One place we will visit is the London Science Museum where they have a Japan Car Exhibit sponsored by Toyota. It should be interesting. This year I am definitely avoiding that BMW museum in Munich. 
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Replying to: tagman (Mar 26, 2009 5:30 am) Unfortunately with markets that is not the case. Extremes with markets cannot really be represented by such a bell curve since extreme events happen far more frequently in markets than in nature. The Japanese stock markets are still significantly down even after two decades and seems to continue going down as time passes by. Stable equilibrium values are not as easily defined in markets as they are in nature. |
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