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Re: The new HS250H introduced [lexusguy] by tagman
Jan 15, 2009 (10:31 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 15, 2009 6:49 pm)

Wow that has to be tough.
 
Oh, God yes. I am humbled by this entire experience.
 
The XJ VP is good enough though that I would be more than satisfied with it as my only vehicle.
 
Thank you... I agree. And that is essentially, the plan. My one car will be the XJ. The wife will have her MDX (or maybe I can convince her to trade it in for the new Prius?), and the daughter will have her Escape Hybrid.
 
TM
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [tagman] by lexusguy
Jan 16, 2009 (2:22 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 15, 2009 10:31 pm)

(or maybe I can convince her to trade it in for the new Prius?)
 
I would think that the RX450h or the upcoming Q5 hybrid might be easier sells.
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Re: Jag R8 Fighter [lexusguy] by m4d_cow
Jan 16, 2009 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 15, 2009 9:38 am)

The 220 itself wasn't a bad car, just horribly timed.
 
Mechanically it wasnt so bad, despite turbo lags of course. However the body was terrible inside out. I saw it once in LA and I wasn't impressed at all by the el cheapo cabin. Worse yet, the body used too many parts from Ford's bin (the use of Ford Escort's tailights was the easiest to spot).
 
If that's the best Jag can do...... I dont know what to say...
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Jaguar by dewey
Jan 16, 2009 (8:20 am)
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In the early part of this milennium Jacques Nasser wanted to introduce a new Jaguar E-Type. Such a retro car would have been perfect. If a retro British economy car like a MINI can be a success then definitely a retro British car like the Jag E-type would be even a bigger success. Many people have fond memories of the Jag E-type. Even someone like me who cannot even remember seeing one during my childhood loves the idea of a E-type.
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Re: Jag R8 Fighter [m4d_cow] by lexusguy
Jan 16, 2009 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 16, 2009 5:53 am)

I saw it once in LA and I wasn't impressed at all by the el cheapo cabin.
 
Most of the surfaces were covered in leather, it was the IP and center stack that ruined it. The actual switchgear wasn't really any worse than the crap in the Aston Martin DB7, but somehow the Aston was able to get away with it. The DB7 was just an XJ-S in a fancy dress, and the Vanquish was almost entirely parts binned, and look where Aston is now. I would give Jag another chance to get it right.
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Re: Jaguar [dewey] by lexusguy
Jan 16, 2009 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 16, 2009 8:20 am)

Such a retro car would have been perfect. If a retro British economy car like a MINI can be a success then definitely a retro British car like the Jag E-type would be even a bigger success. Many people have fond memories of the Jag E-type. Even someone like me who cannot even remember seeing one during my childhood loves the idea of a E-type.
 
That reminds me of the Austin Healey "Mk IV" concept from a few years ago. I think that car could've been a big hit - provided it was given a proper interior and a real engine. The lesson from Ford's very short lived new Thunderbird (as well as the Prowler and the SSR) is that you cannot fool all of the people all the time.
 

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