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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 13, 2009 9:58 pm) I assume you are talking about the Audi engine that we've talked about before at some length, which is the only real challenger to the BMW TT in-line 6. The only disadvantage I see, although that could be argued, is that this Audi engine needs to spin at two times the RPMs of the BMW engine in order to deliver it's peak torque. Peak torque is more readily accomplished by the BMW engine at an amazingly low 1400 RPM... although the Audi engine should deliver somewhere between 5-10% more power. TM
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 13, 2009 10:42 pm) According to Audi though, response is instant. They say they went with a supercharger rather than their usual twin turbo route for more linear response all the way through the rev range. The old 2.7T hit peak torque at 1800rpm, but it definitely wasn't as smooth or linear as the 4.2.
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Replying to: dhamilton (Jan 13, 2009 3:21 pm) I drove most my life without being charged for speeding until I got my BMW 335i.Many times I would get caught with only a warning and no ticktets. But now with my BMW 335i I get treated like I am some kind of road warrior bandit. Despite my speeding tickets I would have skill kept my BMW 335i for many years. But the recurring dealership visit is what makes me want to sell it right away. I already have three problems with my car but I still refuse to go to the dealership again until a much anticipated fourth problem arises which I know will happen very soon. I've been going so many times to the dealership that I would rather accure my problems to the point where I have no choice but to go to the dealerhship. My many repeated dealership visits has been a real time killer for me. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2009 8:09 am) |
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 13, 2009 9:31 pm) The Hyundai Genesis. Just like the Hyundai Genesis I think the Prius transcends its price tag .Why? Let's just look at the technology of a Prius compared to cars that are many times its price and you will know what I mean. Also I read BMW is developing two mode hybrids that based on the descriptions sounds almost prehistoric when compared to Toyota's new HSD technology. Here's a a very brief and short list of some of the technologies that will be available in the new Prius: Use of an electric water pump and a new exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) system also contribute to the engine's efficiency. The 1.8-liter Toyota Prius engine is the first Toyota power plant that requires no belts under the hood for better fuel economy and less potential maintenance. The patented Hybrid Synergy Drive system in the 2010 Toyota Prius is 90 percent newly-developed with significant improvements over previous models. * The transaxle is lighter in weight and reduces torque losses by as much as 20 percent compared to the previous model. * The inverter, which converts direct current to alternating current, has a new direct cooling system to reduce size and weight. * Taken together, the inverter, motor and transaxle are smaller and 20 percent lighter. * A newly developed electronically controlled regenerative braking system has been adopted, with control logic optimized to enhance regeneration. The new Toyota Prius will offer three alternative driving modes. EV-Drive Mode allows driving on battery power alone at low speeds for about a mile, if conditions permit. There is also a Power Mode, which increases sensitivity to throttle input for a sportier feel, and an Eco Mode, which helps the driver achieve their best mileage. The new Prius received more wind tunnel hours of testing than any other Toyota in history, resulting in the cleanest aerodynamic profile of any mass-produced vehicle in the world. By focusing on the shape of the body, underfloor, wheelhouse liner and shape of the wheels, the designers of the new Toyota Prius were able to reduce the coefficient of drag (Cd) value to 0.25, compared to 0.26 for the previous model. The airflow under the car was studied extensively. Engineers made changes to the shape of the fender liner, front surface of the underfloor, and added a fin at the rear floor cover to increase linear stability. An available sliding glass moonroof is packaged with solar panels, located over the rear seating area, that power a new ventilation system. This solar powered ventilation system uses an electrically powered air circulation fan that does not require engine assist. The system prevents the interior air temperature from rising while the vehicle is parked, making the cool-down time shorter when the driver returns to the vehicle, thus reducing the use of air conditioning. The remote air-conditioning system is the first system in the world to function on battery-power alone and that can be remotely operated, so the driver can adjust the interior temperature for comfort before getting in the car. Reducing the vehicle's power consumption, available LED (light emitting diode) lamps are used for low beams and also in the tail and stop lamps. Air conditioning, a major energy drain, has been re-engineered to increase efficiency and cool-down performance. In addition, an exhaust heat recirculation system reduces heat waste by warming engine coolant during cold startup, for improved performance. It also heats up the passenger cabin more efficiently. Dynamic Radar Cruise Control system, using advanced millimeter wave radar, is an available option. The system also enables Lane Keep Assist, which helps the driver stay safely within the lane, and the Pre-Collision System, which retracts seatbelts and applies the brakes in certain conditions when a crash is unavoidable. Next-generation Intelligent Parking Assist features simplified settings to help guide the car into parking spaces. A backup monitor, which provides a view of rear obstacles when reverse is engaged, is available with an optional voice-activated navigation system. Safety Connect, Toyota's first safety and security service, includes automatic collision notification, stolen vehicle locator and an SOS call button. Safety Connect will be available a few months after launch.
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| I'm not sure Tag, from the pics the HS doesn't seem to share other Lexus' design theme..... | |
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 14, 2009 9:19 am) My situation is that I need to dramatically reduce the number of cars I already have, and I must decide what to keep and what to sell. I have decided earlier this morning to sell my Ford F-150, even though it is only two months after acquiring it. I had breakfast with my Ford rep to iron out the details. The Porsche has already been for sale, but no buyers yet. That leaves the Jag and the 135i. That's a very tough choice. Yes, the Genesis won the award. I read about it, but didn't post here because I have already posted my belief in the Genesis so many times here. I originally, and steadily, have posted nothing but full confidence in the Genesis and I have predicted its success from day one. The award is just another testimony to what the Genesis is all about. I hope more of the posters here are starting to "get it", and appreciate what the Genesis is all about. Did you say you already placed your order for the Prius? TM |
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 14, 2009 9:19 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 14, 2009 11:09 am) I called two sales reps from two dealers to call me as soon as they have the pricing. Whoever calls me first will get my business. |
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Jan 14, 2009 11:12 am) Just remember it will still be your wife's car no matter what she chooses.  |
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