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Re: Audi, BMW… and then MB [jlbl] by dewey
Jan 13, 2009 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Jan 13, 2009 4:15 am)

Jose,
 
I was in Oxford 11 years ago. I rented a 98 Citroen Xsara and actually loved driving it ( I guess this had more to do with the fact that it was the first car I had rented with a manual tranny). It was perfectly small for the very narrow roads of some UK cities especially York.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by cyclone4
Jan 13, 2009 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 12, 2009 3:12 pm)

Dewey, first of all, I am happy for you. A decision to go with the new Prius is very smart for your needs. But just to get the record straight,the HS250h does offer some tech features that you cannot get with the Prius. I don't know all the details, but from what I have read on the press release, the HS250h has as available options, radar cruise control, a lane departure warning feature, a blind spot camera, parking sensors, a new and improved navigation screen, back-up camera, and probably other options that I am not yet familiar with which are not available with the Prius. But again, the new Prius is an awesome vehicle for what it is designed to do best as you stated....great fuel efficiency.
 
BTW, after a brief discussion with the wife, she is not interest in the HS250h. She has her mind set on the new RX450h. In any case, I think we are in for exciting times ahead in hybrid and electric technology.
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Luxury Lounge digression by jlbl
Jan 13, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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Google Earth has just started a pioneering proceeding that allows seeing masterpieces hanged on museums around the world in very very very high resolution. Impressive. It has started with 14 paintings exhibited in El Prado Museum of Madrid. To watch them, the following procedure must be followed:
 
Enter Google Earth
Activate 3D in Preferences
Fly to El Prado Museum
Place the cursor on the Museum outline until illuminating it
Click on the outline
Click on one of the appearing paintings
Click then on "Explore this image in super high resolution" legend below the painting
And enjoy
 
 
Luxurious. I have been hours exploring the paintings at a detail one never could have dreamed of.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [cyclone4] by cyclone4
Jan 13, 2009 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Jan 13, 2009 12:38 pm)

Oops! After looking at the Prius features, I am mistaken about a couple of options. The new Prius does have as options the adaptive cruise control (I am not sure if this is the same as radar cruise control) and a lane departure warning feature. Does the Prius have a pre collision system like the HS250h?
 
In any case, Dewey, I'm sure you will be a very happy camper with your next generation Prius.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by circlew
Jan 13, 2009 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 13, 2009 11:22 am)

Just for the heck of it, did you try 4 snows on the 335??
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: I know I've been gone for a while, but [blkhemi] by lexusguy
Jan 13, 2009 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Jan 13, 2009 7:14 am)


Will do, sir! How has everything been going for you LG?

 
All things considered, quite well. No problems with the S6, or tickets as of late. I've read stories of budget-crunched states handing out $100 tickets for as little as 5 over the limit, but I've been sticking to my strategy of around 8 over with no complaints from the PA boys in blue. If I had to drive under 60 just to not get a ticket, I would probably trade in the Audi and Jag for a Prius as well (or an '03 ES300), and spend the money on new Levinson or EDGE amplifiers. At least those I can actually use to their full potential.
 

Then it came down the Infiniti, which leaps and bounds better in quality than the previous model, but still trails the other Japanese, most Europeans, and one American in particular in overall polish.

 
I know what you mean. I liked the G's interior when it was released, but I've since soured on it. That seem in the lower dash that doesn't line up with the sides bugs me to no end. The new TL's interior though is much worse, the center stack design is an ergonomic nightmare, and it reeks of bargain basement materials. Even the aluminum strips in the old car are gone, as far as I know the new TL is 100% plastic.
 
And with the Audi, I wish they upgraded the engines a bit more than what was delivered. Audi/VW had no decent V6 until the upcoming 3.0
 
Yep, in every instance where Audi offers the 2.0T and the 3.2, the pretty much universal consensus is "get the 2.0T". I will say though that the final year of the 2.7T, when it offered 265hp and 280ft.lbs of torque while returning 22mpg overall was a very competitive engine, better than the E320 and 530i that were offered that year. So Audi had a decent V6 for a year. Despite being based on the ancient 2.8, I think the A6 would've been better off if they had just kept the old 2.7T and mated it to the six-speed in the '05 car.
 
The new 3.0T seems like an absolutely fantastic engine, and it should elevate the A6 from slug to worthy contender. Now Audi needs to do the same with the A4.
 
The CTS-V is a monster, even James May liked it. Unfortunately I can't get past the styling, or the Cadillac "experience". I've never been to a Cadillac dealer that I found even tolerable, let alone pleasant. Absolutely no difference in attitude from the guys next door selling Pontiacs or GMCs.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by lexusguy
Jan 13, 2009 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 13, 2009 11:27 am)

Even the much bigger hybrid Ford Fusion will have superior mileage than the Honda Insight. That is a huge Honda disappointment and this Insight is a far cry from the mileage of the Honda Insight 10 years ago.
 
I wouldn't go that far. The Insight is rated 40/43, but Edmunds was able to break 50mpg in their full test. C&D managed 37/33 with the Fusion, which is hugely impressive considering the Fusion is more than 1,000lbs heavier than the Insight, and a good 3 seconds quicker to 60. Frankly I think the Ford is more of an achievement than both the Insight and the Prius.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [cyclone4] by dewey
Jan 13, 2009 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Jan 13, 2009 1:15 pm)

Does the Prius have a pre collision system like the HS250h?
 
Yes. That is exactly my point. The most exciting technologies are availabe in both the Prius and HS. As far as I know the HS does not have the solar powered sun roof like the Prius.
 
Dynamic Radar Cruise Control system, using advanced millimeter wave radar, is an available option. The system also enables Lane Keep Assist, which helps the driver stay safely within the lane, and the Pre-Collision System, which retracts seatbelts and applies the brakes in certain conditions when a crash is unavoidable.
 

 
http://www.netcarshow.com/toyota/2010-prius/
 
Choosing a Lexus over a Toyota because of better comfort, service, quality, ride and the many other reasons makes sense. I am not trying to say one choice is more sensible than the other. The RX hybrid is IMO the most comfortable hybrid available.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [circlew] by dewey
Jan 13, 2009 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 13, 2009 1:31 pm)

Just for the heck of it, did you try 4 snows on the 335??
 
Yes. 17 ' Bridgestones.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [lexusguy] by dewey
Jan 13, 2009 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 13, 2009 2:04 pm)

Thanks Lexusguy for pointing out that article.
 
51.5 MPG! That's fantastic.
 
In that case I agree with Tagman and I will be far more open minded about a Honda Insight than I was just a few hours ago.

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