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Re: I know I've been gone for a while, but [lexusguy] by blkhemi
Jan 13, 2009 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 12, 2009 9:34 pm)

"... test it with QuattroSport.."
 
Will do, sir! How has everything been going for you LG?
 
More on the Audi. As most of you know, I have a special fondness for Audis. But I did give serious thought into buying a 330d, G37S, and I even looked at the TL SH-AWD and CTS DI. I crossed the MB C350 off the list early on due to a lack of interest for me. The TL styling is a bit polarizing for this old gray-head, right along with the MDX, it was crossed as well.
 
Then it came down the Infiniti, which leaps and bounds better in quality than the previous model, but still trails the other Japanese, most Europeans, and one American in particular in overall polish. But it's powertrain is spot on. So believe it or not, I came down to the Audi and the Cadillac. The Cadillac has moved the needle so far ahead for GMs luxury division that it is a pity that the company was/is mismanaged so badly. The overall feel and solidness of the car seems to be from the best German studios. The low NVH levels would embarrass other supposed "hushed" cars.
 
And then right across the road sits the Audi dealership. There sits a Race Red A4. Right from the jump, it is known that this is not your off-lease 08 A4. It sits lowerr and wider than before, with the wheels being pushed out to sides of all four corners. The interior keeps Audi's tradition of exemplary material and craftsmanship here. The finish of the overall product is stunning.
 
Truth be told, I am still at a crossroads between the two cars. The only thing that puts a sour taste in my mouth with the CTS is the level of "bling". An extravagant array of chrome and lighting is a bit much. And with the Audi, I wish they upgraded the engines a bit more than what was delivered. Audi/VW had no decent V6 until the upcoming 3.0 The 3.6 in the Passat is okay, but the BMW 3.0tt, GMs 3.6L, and even Toyota/Lexus 3.5 will smack it silly for polish, refinement, and efficient.
 
I am also holding my cards also for the CTS-v. I am curious about its everyday drivability and performance. Stay tuned...
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [louiswei] by dewey
Jan 13, 2009 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 12, 2009 3:58 pm)

if I am you I would hold on for one more year because according to Toyota, lithium Ion battery and plug-in are coming later this year.
 
I dont have time to wait for the Holy Grail of lithium ion batteries. Those lithium ion battery plug in Priuses your're talking about will be sold in very low numbers to a select few commercial businesses. Like the electrical MINI these cars will be a rarity for this year.
 
Despite the trials and tribulations of my investment business I have no intention upon starting a courier express business just in order to be qualified as a commercial businsess so I can own a plug in Prius.
 
Nor do I have time to wait a few years until plug ins or electrical vehicles become more prevalent since right now with my BMW I need a dog whip and a team of Siberian Huskies for commuting in the city.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [tagman] by dewey
Jan 13, 2009 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 12, 2009 7:17 pm)

Tag,
 
I will keep an open mind about the Honda Insight.
 
BUTa 40 MPG figure is not impressive at all. A year ago Honda mentioned that the Insight will achieve 2nd generation Prius mileage at a far lower price. At least they seem to be keeping their promise about the lower pirce but they certainly did break their promise about mileage.
 
Even the much bigger hybrid Ford Fusion will have superior mileage than the Honda Insight. That is a huge Honda disappointment and this Insight is a far cry from the mileage of the Honda Insight 10 years ago.
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Re: I know I've been gone for a while, but [blkhemi] by dewey
Jan 13, 2009 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Jan 12, 2009 4:00 pm)

Good to hear from you Blkhemi,
 
At least your BMW 335i has been more reliable than mine.
I tend to keep cars for a very long time but that will not be the case with my BMW 335i. If I ever owned a Audi R8 that car would remain a family heirloom for many generations in the Dewey family.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [garyh1] by dewey
Jan 13, 2009 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: garyh1 (Jan 12, 2009 10:21 pm)

I do in fact understand why you have come to value dependability so highly after experiencing the pain of dealing with an unreliable car.

 
I will definitely be taking a multi-year sabbatical from buying a new German car. Though that will not be so hard for me since I already have a BMW 530xi Touring and a ancient Benz in my garage.
 
I have test driven a Prius many times and my expectations for its handling and performance is not high at all. So I wont be disappointed.
 
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Re: Audi, BMW… and then MB [jlbl] by dewey
Jan 13, 2009 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Jan 13, 2009 4:15 am)

Jose,
 
I was in Oxford 11 years ago. I rented a 98 Citroen Xsara and actually loved driving it ( I guess this had more to do with the fact that it was the first car I had rented with a manual tranny). It was perfectly small for the very narrow roads of some UK cities especially York.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by cyclone4
Jan 13, 2009 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 12, 2009 3:12 pm)

Dewey, first of all, I am happy for you. A decision to go with the new Prius is very smart for your needs. But just to get the record straight,the HS250h does offer some tech features that you cannot get with the Prius. I don't know all the details, but from what I have read on the press release, the HS250h has as available options, radar cruise control, a lane departure warning feature, a blind spot camera, parking sensors, a new and improved navigation screen, back-up camera, and probably other options that I am not yet familiar with which are not available with the Prius. But again, the new Prius is an awesome vehicle for what it is designed to do best as you stated....great fuel efficiency.
 
BTW, after a brief discussion with the wife, she is not interest in the HS250h. She has her mind set on the new RX450h. In any case, I think we are in for exciting times ahead in hybrid and electric technology.
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Luxury Lounge digression by jlbl
Jan 13, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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Google Earth has just started a pioneering proceeding that allows seeing masterpieces hanged on museums around the world in very very very high resolution. Impressive. It has started with 14 paintings exhibited in El Prado Museum of Madrid. To watch them, the following procedure must be followed:
 
Enter Google Earth
Activate 3D in Preferences
Fly to El Prado Museum
Place the cursor on the Museum outline until illuminating it
Click on the outline
Click on one of the appearing paintings
Click then on "Explore this image in super high resolution" legend below the painting
And enjoy
 
 
Luxurious. I have been hours exploring the paintings at a detail one never could have dreamed of.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [cyclone4] by cyclone4
Jan 13, 2009 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Jan 13, 2009 12:38 pm)

Oops! After looking at the Prius features, I am mistaken about a couple of options. The new Prius does have as options the adaptive cruise control (I am not sure if this is the same as radar cruise control) and a lane departure warning feature. Does the Prius have a pre collision system like the HS250h?
 
In any case, Dewey, I'm sure you will be a very happy camper with your next generation Prius.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by circlew
Jan 13, 2009 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 13, 2009 11:22 am)

Just for the heck of it, did you try 4 snows on the 335??
 
Regards,
OW

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