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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by louiswei
Jan 12, 2009 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 12, 2009 4:12 pm)

If you want FE and FE only then go straight to Toyota show room and get yourself a Prius.
 
If you want luxury with reasonable/better than average FE then HS250h is the car.
 
It's really that simple, at least to me that is. The HS250h will pretty much give you Camry Hybrid-like FE with the usually Lexus luxury. I predict the HS250h will get you 35 mpg combined which is not bad but falls short than the 40 I would like to see. Clearly this car is not for me but I also do realize that I am part of the minority (a very very small minority...) when comes to car buying. However, I am sure for those who hate driving, want a luxury ride, don't care about performance and want to reduce gas bill the HS is going to fit them perfectly.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by tagman
Jan 12, 2009 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 12, 2009 4:12 pm)

My question above is what does he mean by "technology". Most the latest technologies of the HS is also availabe in the Prius.
 
Probably stuff like a HUD that even works in bright daylight. IMO, it's all no big deal. You won't miss any of it. Prius is a smart decision, and I'd get the sunroof option. Fortunately, you will probably have an opportunity to check out (and rule out?) the Honda Insight before your Prius arrives... so, if you discover you like the Insight better than the Prius, you can still get one. You've got a win-win situation on your hands!
 
TM
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Re: I know I've been gone for a while, but [blkhemi] by lexusguy
Jan 12, 2009 (10:34 pm)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Jan 12, 2009 5:00 pm)

I will more than likely go with an S4 later this year when ii trade the Bimmer.
 
Please test one with QuattroSport and let us know what you think. From what I've read, the combination of the new more balanced platform, ADS, and QuattroSport make it the best handling Audi sedan ever, even better than the old RS4.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by garyh1
Jan 12, 2009 (11:21 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 12, 2009 4:12 pm)

Dewey, have you actually driven the Prius? I haven't myself, but some friends of mine who have didn't like the way it accelerated or handled. Other friends have the car and love it. But I wonder whether the difference between driving a 335 and the Prius could be too great.
 
I do in fact understand why you have come to value dependability so highly after experiencing the pain of dealing with an unreliable car. It's what drove me to the LS430 rather than the previous generation S430. Hopefully, the current S550 is now reliable.
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by m4d_cow
Jan 13, 2009 (12:13 am)
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Jose, nivea's really good indeed. As far as I know (and I admit I dont know much) only Body Shop products can do better. However I've never heard anyone using it for leather...
 
Thanks for all recommendations, will check it out.
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Re: [m4d_cow] by jlbl
Jan 13, 2009 (1:17 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 13, 2009 12:13 am)

However I've never heard anyone using it for leather...
 
Now you have heard of one!
 
In fact Nivea Creme is even better than the body milk but more difficult to administer due to its richness. (Using body milks/cremes with perfumes or other cosmetics in them is not good at all.)
 
Using Nivea body milk it's quite common over here as well for the care of leather jackets or similar clothes. Gives to any kind of leather flexibility and durability—but of course no color!
 
Nivea body milk should be applied rubbing the leather with a Nivea-embbebed soft smooth clean fabric. Do not apply Nivea body milk directly to the leather to avoid dark stains difficult to remove even after rubbing with the cloth. In any case, applying Nivea in much quantities should be avoided in order to not leave Nivea white remnants in the seams.
 
 Bien sure, Nivea is not a hard cleaning product nor one to restore lost color; it is only for refreshing and keeping leathers in good condition.
 
And finally, Nivea body milk was the product my BMW dealer recommended me for the conservation of my Bimmer leathers.
 
Regards,
Jose
 
Edit: You could possibly use it at least once on a seat or part of a seat and if you weren't satisfied with the result… no problem in changing thereafter to other product as no damage had been done to the leather.
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Audi, BMW… and then MB by jlbl
Jan 13, 2009 (5:15 am)
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I'm back home after having spent last fortnight in Oxford, UK. The stay has been productive in professional terms and nice because I have again encountered some good old friends. It has on the other hand reassured my feelings on how spartan Britons are regarding heating their homes and buildings—even if the whether is snowy and well below 0ºC!
 
(All this being said with the most possible fondness for them and their beatiful island.)
 
I went and came by plane, which added pain to to my freezing because Madrid Airport was closed both times, the first one for some air controllers action and the second by bad wether. As a result I had to pass through more airports than needed to arrive to my destinations. Sort of a nightmare to avoid by all means to spend nights in airport hotels. I rather had drove and board a ferry had I knew it.
 
When in Oxford or riding the highway to and from London Airports, I observed traffic. Regarding the number of Luxury German cars seen, my conclusion was: Audi was the leader closely followed by BMW (very closely followed in fact); MB was tailing at wide distance. This is akin to what I currently see in Spain and France.
 
This of course was a subjective appreciation. Any of the usuals here know what is MB passenger car status in global and regional markets? I may be wrong, but I would be concerned if I my life prospects were dependent on MB selling figures.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: [jlbl] by m4d_cow
Jan 13, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Jan 13, 2009 1:17 am)

Interesting, it all makes sense though, skin and leather are basically the same thing. I guess the conditioner in the nivea will keep it smoooottthhh..... Nothing beats creamy leather and soft surfaces.
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Re: I know I've been gone for a while, but [lexusguy] by blkhemi
Jan 13, 2009 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 12, 2009 10:34 pm)

"... test it with QuattroSport.."
 
Will do, sir! How has everything been going for you LG?
 
More on the Audi. As most of you know, I have a special fondness for Audis. But I did give serious thought into buying a 330d, G37S, and I even looked at the TL SH-AWD and CTS DI. I crossed the MB C350 off the list early on due to a lack of interest for me. The TL styling is a bit polarizing for this old gray-head, right along with the MDX, it was crossed as well.
 
Then it came down the Infiniti, which leaps and bounds better in quality than the previous model, but still trails the other Japanese, most Europeans, and one American in particular in overall polish. But it's powertrain is spot on. So believe it or not, I came down to the Audi and the Cadillac. The Cadillac has moved the needle so far ahead for GMs luxury division that it is a pity that the company was/is mismanaged so badly. The overall feel and solidness of the car seems to be from the best German studios. The low NVH levels would embarrass other supposed "hushed" cars.
 
And then right across the road sits the Audi dealership. There sits a Race Red A4. Right from the jump, it is known that this is not your off-lease 08 A4. It sits lowerr and wider than before, with the wheels being pushed out to sides of all four corners. The interior keeps Audi's tradition of exemplary material and craftsmanship here. The finish of the overall product is stunning.
 
Truth be told, I am still at a crossroads between the two cars. The only thing that puts a sour taste in my mouth with the CTS is the level of "bling". An extravagant array of chrome and lighting is a bit much. And with the Audi, I wish they upgraded the engines a bit more than what was delivered. Audi/VW had no decent V6 until the upcoming 3.0 The 3.6 in the Passat is okay, but the BMW 3.0tt, GMs 3.6L, and even Toyota/Lexus 3.5 will smack it silly for polish, refinement, and efficient.
 
I am also holding my cards also for the CTS-v. I am curious about its everyday drivability and performance. Stay tuned...
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [louiswei] by dewey
Jan 13, 2009 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 12, 2009 4:58 pm)

if I am you I would hold on for one more year because according to Toyota, lithium Ion battery and plug-in are coming later this year.
 
I dont have time to wait for the Holy Grail of lithium ion batteries. Those lithium ion battery plug in Priuses your're talking about will be sold in very low numbers to a select few commercial businesses. Like the electrical MINI these cars will be a rarity for this year.
 
Despite the trials and tribulations of my investment business I have no intention upon starting a courier express business just in order to be qualified as a commercial businsess so I can own a plug in Prius.
 
Nor do I have time to wait a few years until plug ins or electrical vehicles become more prevalent since right now with my BMW I need a dog whip and a team of Siberian Huskies for commuting in the city.

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