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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by lexusguy
Jan 12, 2009 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 12, 2009 3:12 pm)

Did he say a bit over 33 MPG My very roomy and very big MB 300D is not far off from that figure. At least the Prius is focused on what it does best: Fuel Efficiency.
 
That's pretty much exactly what I expected, though I assumed the HS250 would have more than 187hp. Weight is the enemy of fuel efficiency, and luxury items add weight. This is why the GS450h is one of the dumbest vehicles ever created.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [lexusguy] by dewey
Jan 12, 2009 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 12, 2009 3:41 pm)

I remember.
 
In fact I thought you were a bit pessimistic. Now I realize that the HS mileage specs are even worse than what you had said.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by louiswei
Jan 12, 2009 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 12, 2009 12:31 pm)

I already called a Toyota dealership and I will soon be putting in my deposit. Hopefully I will get my car by late spring.
 
Dewey, if I am you I would hold on for one more year because according to Toyota, lithium Ion battery and plug-in are coming later this year.
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I know I've been gone for a while, but by blkhemi
Jan 12, 2009 (4:00 pm)
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WOW!! Dewey is talking about buying a Japanese made car?
 
I'm sorry that your 335i is giving you trouble. Aside from a broken strut mount and an irritable airbag light, mine has been fine, in fact now achieving upwards of 28 mpg.
 
But all good things must come to a close. Now that my wife is comfortable driving the W-12 while awaiting the purchase of either the GLK Bluetec or X5 D, I will more than likely go with an S4 later this year when ii trade the Bimmer.
 
Fascinating story. I got a chance to drive a 599 GTB Ferrari over the Holidays up in Cape Cod. Sister-in-law's brother is the lucky dog that owns it.. Very exhilarating. He thought highly of my "lowly" R8. Says it is as easy to drive as a A4. Indeed it is.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by louiswei
Jan 12, 2009 (4:07 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 12, 2009 3:12 pm)

If you want FE and FE only then go straight to Toyota show room and get yourself a Prius.
 
If you want luxury with reasonable/better than average FE then HS250h is the car.
 
It's really that simple, at least to me that is. The HS250h will pretty much give you Camry Hybrid-like FE with the usually Lexus luxury. I predict the HS250h will get you 35 mpg combined which is not bad but falls short than the 40 I would like to see. Clearly this car is not for me but I also do realize that I am part of the minority (a very very small minority...) when comes to car buying. However, I am sure for those who hate driving, want a luxury ride, don't care about performance and want to reduce gas bill the HS is going to fit them perfectly.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by tagman
Jan 12, 2009 (7:17 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 12, 2009 3:12 pm)

My question above is what does he mean by "technology". Most the latest technologies of the HS is also availabe in the Prius.
 
Probably stuff like a HUD that even works in bright daylight. IMO, it's all no big deal. You won't miss any of it. Prius is a smart decision, and I'd get the sunroof option. Fortunately, you will probably have an opportunity to check out (and rule out?) the Honda Insight before your Prius arrives... so, if you discover you like the Insight better than the Prius, you can still get one. You've got a win-win situation on your hands!
 
TM
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Re: I know I've been gone for a while, but [blkhemi] by lexusguy
Jan 12, 2009 (9:34 pm)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Jan 12, 2009 4:00 pm)

I will more than likely go with an S4 later this year when ii trade the Bimmer.
 
Please test one with QuattroSport and let us know what you think. From what I've read, the combination of the new more balanced platform, ADS, and QuattroSport make it the best handling Audi sedan ever, even better than the old RS4.
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Re: The new HS250H introduced [dewey] by garyh1
Jan 12, 2009 (10:21 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 12, 2009 3:12 pm)

Dewey, have you actually driven the Prius? I haven't myself, but some friends of mine who have didn't like the way it accelerated or handled. Other friends have the car and love it. But I wonder whether the difference between driving a 335 and the Prius could be too great.
 
I do in fact understand why you have come to value dependability so highly after experiencing the pain of dealing with an unreliable car. It's what drove me to the LS430 rather than the previous generation S430. Hopefully, the current S550 is now reliable.
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by m4d_cow
Jan 12, 2009 (11:13 pm)
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Jose, nivea's really good indeed. As far as I know (and I admit I dont know much) only Body Shop products can do better. However I've never heard anyone using it for leather...
 
Thanks for all recommendations, will check it out.
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Re: [m4d_cow] by jlbl
Jan 13, 2009 (12:17 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jan 12, 2009 11:13 pm)

However I've never heard anyone using it for leather...
 
Now you have heard of one!
 
In fact Nivea Creme is even better than the body milk but more difficult to administer due to its richness. (Using body milks/cremes with perfumes or other cosmetics in them is not good at all.)
 
Using Nivea body milk it's quite common over here as well for the care of leather jackets or similar clothes. Gives to any kind of leather flexibility and durability—but of course no color!
 
Nivea body milk should be applied rubbing the leather with a Nivea-embbebed soft smooth clean fabric. Do not apply Nivea body milk directly to the leather to avoid dark stains difficult to remove even after rubbing with the cloth. In any case, applying Nivea in much quantities should be avoided in order to not leave Nivea white remnants in the seams.
 
 Bien sure, Nivea is not a hard cleaning product nor one to restore lost color; it is only for refreshing and keeping leathers in good condition.
 
And finally, Nivea body milk was the product my BMW dealer recommended me for the conservation of my Bimmer leathers.
 
Regards,
Jose
 
Edit: You could possibly use it at least once on a seat or part of a seat and if you weren't satisfied with the result… no problem in changing thereafter to other product as no damage had been done to the leather.

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