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Re: I'm back, too [dewey] by garyh1
Jan 06, 2009 (9:32 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 4:44 pm)

Thanks, Dewey, I always appreciated your posts - even when we sometimes (but not often) vehemently disagreed.
 
I agree my conundrum is the kind that is good to have. I hope it didn't sound like I was looking for sympathy!
 
Taking into account the input from here, and some more soul-searching, I think I am coming to the conclusion that I will not worry about the new '09 "perfect car" sitting at the dealer that might get away, and will either wait for a used one equipped the way I want it to show up, or just hold onto the LS for a while longer.
 
Of course, as I am sure every person who participates in this board has felt themselves, once you start thinking about getting new wheels, it is hard to stop pursuing the "dream". But I am going to try to exercise self-control - at least for the moment!
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Re: Hope Everyone [rockshocka1] by cdnpinhead
Jan 07, 2009 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: rockshocka1 (Jan 06, 2009 7:44 pm)

. . .what's the point of TSX?
 
 Well, in my case, it provided a manual transmission, smaller more nimble size (the American Accord is growing into a Buick, with what appear to be Town Car aspirations), stiffer suspension & several lux features. Rear seats fold down, too, which the TL's don't. However, I got my TSX before the "beak" and am quite pleased. Would have preferred RWD, but that's another very long story.
 
Acura may very well be on its way down the chute but, as they say, I got mine.
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Re: Hope Everyone [cdnpinhead] by rockshocka1
Jan 07, 2009 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jan 07, 2009 5:28 am)

I understand where you're coming from,but I'm making the assumption based on the article, that Honda is going to one global accord. Probably the Euro version, which is essentially the TSX. If Honda goes that way, then what would the point for the TSX be? Surely, one would be able to get the Accord in manual, the size would be the same. A few luxury touches & the beak?
 
You & others who got the TSX & TL before the extreme makeover should enjoy them now & remember them fondly.
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Re: I'm back, too [garyh1] by ljflx
Jan 07, 2009 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: garyh1 (Jan 06, 2009 9:17 pm)

Gary,
 
I've got the LS460L with air suspension. The longer wheel base and the air suspension make for a completely different feel than the LS430 particularly if you put it in sport mode. Power is up, hesitation is gone, handling is improved and gas mileage sometimes blows me away as I've been up to 29mpg on highwy runs. Pure city is 19ish and a blend is usually around 23-24mpg. For a large 380HP car those are great figures. I love it. I also love the GL450. One thing though is that the MB navi is kidnergarten vs grad school for the Lexus navi. MB stereo system and bluetooth is excellent. Lexus bluetooth system on paper is the best but it completely prevents you from using it to its abilities while driving. it's like giving you a 5,000 foot house and then closing off 4500 feet of it from use.
 
I also picked up an Infiniti G about 22 months ago. My son is principally driving that now, though my wife and I put about 12,000 miles on it. We love it also. The Infiniti bluetooth is nice in that it recognizes any bluetooth phone any driver has. So you don't need to select phone. The Infiniti just prioritizes and defaults to the highest priority if calls come in on two phones at the same time. I haven't set up more than one phone in the MB yet but i believe you have to select phone like Lexus.
 
We looked at the 3 series and loved it but the Infiniti interior was just so much nicer and the Infiniti handling was very close if not equal so we went Infiniti.
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Re: Hope Everyone [rockshocka1] by cdnpinhead
Jan 07, 2009 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: rockshocka1 (Jan 07, 2009 6:10 am)

You & others who got the TSX & TL before the extreme makeover should enjoy them now & remember them fondly.
 
That's exactly the plan.
 
We've got the last "small" Pathfinder (made in Japan, too) also ('04), so now have two "last of their kind" vehicles that have both proven to be totally satisfactory so far.
 
It will be interesting to see what happens to the Accord. It's possible they'll continue to upsize it to compete with the Avalon and let the Civic meet the need for a smaller vehicle. Time will tell.
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From what I see... by m4d_cow
Jan 07, 2009 (9:44 am)
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Acura is actually being smart.
 
For starters Honda so far always fails in making a proper v8, or make a v8 at all in this regard. Many customers on midsize segment and up expects v8 or at least RWD. The latter Honda can do properly but only for it's sports cars.
 
Second, Honda's struggling image in the upper luxury class, Acura's failure to redefine itself plus weakening economy makes forcing itself to keep up with competitors a no brainer move.
 
With this decision, I think Acura decides to move down and compete in the near luxury to entry level luxury segment at the highest. Smart move given the current situation, focus on what you do best. I seriously doubt Acura's will become another Dodo like Olds, but if they don't do something about the design theme quickly it may become one soon.
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Market watch by cyclone4
Jan 07, 2009 (11:32 am)
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It looks as if a new crude oil meltdown has started today. The oil stocks report released this morning showed a huge build-up just as predicted by Len (ljflx). I am still of the opinion that we will see crude oil futures drop to less than $30 per barrel and gasoline at the pump down into the $1.25-1.30 per gallon level.
 
Unfortunately, the stock market is also taking a dive today. In fact, just about every commodity known to man is on its rear today. This includes gold which is down about $25 as of this moment.
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Re: Market watch [cyclone4] by ljflx
Jan 07, 2009 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Jan 07, 2009 11:32 am)

The whole run-up the last two weeks has been pure speculation. Keep in mind that all that after contract oil that is stored in tankers and other storage facilities by the non-trade is not counted in that build-up and in fact ends up being counted as artificial demand. Storage of oil is now at record high levels while demand is dropping. the speculation and the Russia situation plus the Hamas conflict is what has kept oil from collapsing under the $33 figure. There was a funny conversation on WFAN's Boomer and Craton show this morning. Carton is a known sports gambler and wanted to buy oil. He thought it was like buying stock. So he put in to buy 1,000 barrels on Nymex and they in turn wanted to know where he would store the oil if he din't sell out before the end of the contract period. He ran away faster than Dewey's BMW can motor.
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Re: Market watch [ljflx] by circlew
Jan 07, 2009 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 07, 2009 12:02 pm)

Some say the speculation has no legs as it had in the prior 12 months due to hedge fund capitulation. I wonder how the future trading mechanisms will control the price going forward in the market considering supposed calls for transparency. The facts you mentioned and the buy to fill the SPR show that the short term top collapsed (like the residuals of BMW's!) despite the usual market concerns. It seems to me the natural market forces are back for the present moment.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: I'm back, too [garyh1] by ljflx
Jan 07, 2009 (1:50 pm)
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Replying to: garyh1 (Jan 06, 2009 9:17 pm)

Personally, I also decided I really don't want that "AMG Sport package", which is basically some extra fender skirts (which are fine) and the oversize 19" wheels (which look fine but IMHO mess up the ride on bumpy roads and are easily bent).
 
Gary, thanks for that heads-up. I'd certainly consider the S-class again, especally if this GL proves to be reliable. I'm very impressed with the GL build quality and I expect it to be reliable. The S, just like the LS460L is a dream machine for luxury and a plush ride. I wouldn't want anything to interfere with that attribute. I had the S550 for the bulk of a day in test driving and was very impressed with it.

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