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Re: Acura [dewey] by circlew
Jan 06, 2009 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 4:46 pm)

Very interesting. I do not doubt anything anymore. You are either dedicated to it or get out.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Acura [dewey] by lexusguy
Jan 06, 2009 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 4:46 pm)

I think this latest news proves that Honda is raising the white flag in the luxury segment. Acura may soon become Honda's Oldsmobile.
 
Well, at the very least Acura's "we're going to be a tier one player that's taken seriously" plans are over. So much for the $70K Acura.
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Hope Everyone by rockshocka1
Jan 06, 2009 (7:44 pm)
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Had a fantastic holiday season! Enjoy tomorrow night's BS that is the BCS. But seriously, take it for what it is, the best we're going to get for a long time.
 
Have the VIN for the soon to arrive new car & a listing of 6 miles on the ODO after leaving Germania. New ETA for port arrival in GA is 13 Jan, so I expect to see her here at the end of next week.
 
Tony, if you have you're eyes on, I've got a friend who is going to do a daily drive by next week. He lives West of the Ash & just wants a ride. Ha!
 
Getting stoked!
 
On Acura...if Accord becomes one version, what's the point of TSX? RSX is a guzzler to be forgotten, RL goes away. What does that leave them? The abomination of TL (although their best performer) & MDX? Acura, the death toll rings for thee...
 
Unless they shift to hybrid lux.....
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Re: I'm back, too [ljflx] by garyh1
Jan 06, 2009 (9:17 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 06, 2009 7:35 am)

Thanks, Len, for the welcome back. With you in an MB (although in addition to your LS460), Dewey bad-mouthing his Bimmer, and TM in a Ford truck, I feel like I came back but to a parallel universe! Now all we need is Merc to come back and tell us he dumped his beloved MB for a IS350!
 
That was indeed a incredible deal on a new '08 S550. But I guess you have to allow that the '08 already had a year of depreciation built in, and we now see how big that depreciation hit actually is. Personally, I also decided I really don't want that "AMG Sport package", which is basically some extra fender skirts (which are fine) and the oversize 19" wheels (which look fine but IMHO mess up the ride on bumpy roads and are easily bent).
 
So do tell, how do you feel about the LS460? Does it stir your loins when you drive it, or does it just do everything well but does not inspire you? I have to say that my LS430 is the latter to me.
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Re: I'm back, too [dewey] by garyh1
Jan 06, 2009 (9:32 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 4:44 pm)

Thanks, Dewey, I always appreciated your posts - even when we sometimes (but not often) vehemently disagreed.
 
I agree my conundrum is the kind that is good to have. I hope it didn't sound like I was looking for sympathy!
 
Taking into account the input from here, and some more soul-searching, I think I am coming to the conclusion that I will not worry about the new '09 "perfect car" sitting at the dealer that might get away, and will either wait for a used one equipped the way I want it to show up, or just hold onto the LS for a while longer.
 
Of course, as I am sure every person who participates in this board has felt themselves, once you start thinking about getting new wheels, it is hard to stop pursuing the "dream". But I am going to try to exercise self-control - at least for the moment!
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Re: Hope Everyone [rockshocka1] by cdnpinhead
Jan 07, 2009 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: rockshocka1 (Jan 06, 2009 7:44 pm)

. . .what's the point of TSX?
 
 Well, in my case, it provided a manual transmission, smaller more nimble size (the American Accord is growing into a Buick, with what appear to be Town Car aspirations), stiffer suspension & several lux features. Rear seats fold down, too, which the TL's don't. However, I got my TSX before the "beak" and am quite pleased. Would have preferred RWD, but that's another very long story.
 
Acura may very well be on its way down the chute but, as they say, I got mine.
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Re: Hope Everyone [cdnpinhead] by rockshocka1
Jan 07, 2009 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jan 07, 2009 5:28 am)

I understand where you're coming from,but I'm making the assumption based on the article, that Honda is going to one global accord. Probably the Euro version, which is essentially the TSX. If Honda goes that way, then what would the point for the TSX be? Surely, one would be able to get the Accord in manual, the size would be the same. A few luxury touches & the beak?
 
You & others who got the TSX & TL before the extreme makeover should enjoy them now & remember them fondly.
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Re: I'm back, too [garyh1] by ljflx
Jan 07, 2009 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: garyh1 (Jan 06, 2009 9:17 pm)

Gary,
 
I've got the LS460L with air suspension. The longer wheel base and the air suspension make for a completely different feel than the LS430 particularly if you put it in sport mode. Power is up, hesitation is gone, handling is improved and gas mileage sometimes blows me away as I've been up to 29mpg on highwy runs. Pure city is 19ish and a blend is usually around 23-24mpg. For a large 380HP car those are great figures. I love it. I also love the GL450. One thing though is that the MB navi is kidnergarten vs grad school for the Lexus navi. MB stereo system and bluetooth is excellent. Lexus bluetooth system on paper is the best but it completely prevents you from using it to its abilities while driving. it's like giving you a 5,000 foot house and then closing off 4500 feet of it from use.
 
I also picked up an Infiniti G about 22 months ago. My son is principally driving that now, though my wife and I put about 12,000 miles on it. We love it also. The Infiniti bluetooth is nice in that it recognizes any bluetooth phone any driver has. So you don't need to select phone. The Infiniti just prioritizes and defaults to the highest priority if calls come in on two phones at the same time. I haven't set up more than one phone in the MB yet but i believe you have to select phone like Lexus.
 
We looked at the 3 series and loved it but the Infiniti interior was just so much nicer and the Infiniti handling was very close if not equal so we went Infiniti.
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Re: Hope Everyone [rockshocka1] by cdnpinhead
Jan 07, 2009 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: rockshocka1 (Jan 07, 2009 6:10 am)

You & others who got the TSX & TL before the extreme makeover should enjoy them now & remember them fondly.
 
That's exactly the plan.
 
We've got the last "small" Pathfinder (made in Japan, too) also ('04), so now have two "last of their kind" vehicles that have both proven to be totally satisfactory so far.
 
It will be interesting to see what happens to the Accord. It's possible they'll continue to upsize it to compete with the Avalon and let the Civic meet the need for a smaller vehicle. Time will tell.
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From what I see... by m4d_cow
Jan 07, 2009 (9:44 am)
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Acura is actually being smart.
 
For starters Honda so far always fails in making a proper v8, or make a v8 at all in this regard. Many customers on midsize segment and up expects v8 or at least RWD. The latter Honda can do properly but only for it's sports cars.
 
Second, Honda's struggling image in the upper luxury class, Acura's failure to redefine itself plus weakening economy makes forcing itself to keep up with competitors a no brainer move.
 
With this decision, I think Acura decides to move down and compete in the near luxury to entry level luxury segment at the highest. Smart move given the current situation, focus on what you do best. I seriously doubt Acura's will become another Dodo like Olds, but if they don't do something about the design theme quickly it may become one soon.

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