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Re: [circlew] by dewey
Jan 06, 2009 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 06, 2009 12:43 pm)

I agree 100 percent. Honda is being very smart.
 
As I said I think the luxury segment will become far more exclusive and smaller in future years. The incumbents with heritage in such a market will become strongest while a brand like Acura which has always struggled to define themselves in the luxury segment will become irrelevant.
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Re: [dewey] by circlew
Jan 06, 2009 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 12:55 pm)

I believe we on this board beat the new TL to death but I can not understand going from the previous, really nice looking design to the horrid outcome of the 2009 monster. Only thing that comes to mind is at least it's not as boring as the RL was.
 
Perhaps Acura has caught the dreaded GM influenza of the past!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: [dewey] by lexusguy
Jan 06, 2009 (2:03 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 12:55 pm)

Acura also had plans for a launch in the Japanese domestic market which have been scrapped. They also wont follow Infiniti to Europe. I think most of the 2nd tier luxury brands - Acura, Volvo, and Saab especially, are in serious trouble. As their prices keep creeping upward, while the top tier brands continue to expand downward, they are getting squeezed out.
 
They can't offer the badge, or the dedicated RWD platforms, or the materials quality. Why pay $43k for an ugly, glorified Accord?
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Re: I'm back, too [garyh1] by dewey
Jan 06, 2009 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: garyh1 (Jan 05, 2009 1:01 am)

Welcome back Gary,
 
good to hear about your successful sale and even better to hear about your new object of interest: A MB S Class.
 
Pardon me for being such a simple Luddite but I am not as informed about the new MB S Class as I am about MBs from the 1970s or before that time.
 
A spanking new S Class, a 2 year old S Class or your current Lexus LS?
 
 All three sound great to me. You cant go wrong with that choice. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Acura by dewey
Jan 06, 2009 (4:46 pm)
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Lexusguy and Circlew,
 
I think this latest news proves that Honda is raising the white flag in the luxury segment. Acura may soon become Honda's Oldsmobile.
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Re: Acura [dewey] by circlew
Jan 06, 2009 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 4:46 pm)

Very interesting. I do not doubt anything anymore. You are either dedicated to it or get out.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Acura [dewey] by lexusguy
Jan 06, 2009 (6:04 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 4:46 pm)

I think this latest news proves that Honda is raising the white flag in the luxury segment. Acura may soon become Honda's Oldsmobile.
 
Well, at the very least Acura's "we're going to be a tier one player that's taken seriously" plans are over. So much for the $70K Acura.
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Hope Everyone by rockshocka1
Jan 06, 2009 (7:44 pm)
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Had a fantastic holiday season! Enjoy tomorrow night's BS that is the BCS. But seriously, take it for what it is, the best we're going to get for a long time.
 
Have the VIN for the soon to arrive new car & a listing of 6 miles on the ODO after leaving Germania. New ETA for port arrival in GA is 13 Jan, so I expect to see her here at the end of next week.
 
Tony, if you have you're eyes on, I've got a friend who is going to do a daily drive by next week. He lives West of the Ash & just wants a ride. Ha!
 
Getting stoked!
 
On Acura...if Accord becomes one version, what's the point of TSX? RSX is a guzzler to be forgotten, RL goes away. What does that leave them? The abomination of TL (although their best performer) & MDX? Acura, the death toll rings for thee...
 
Unless they shift to hybrid lux.....
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Re: I'm back, too [ljflx] by garyh1
Jan 06, 2009 (9:17 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Jan 06, 2009 7:35 am)

Thanks, Len, for the welcome back. With you in an MB (although in addition to your LS460), Dewey bad-mouthing his Bimmer, and TM in a Ford truck, I feel like I came back but to a parallel universe! Now all we need is Merc to come back and tell us he dumped his beloved MB for a IS350!
 
That was indeed a incredible deal on a new '08 S550. But I guess you have to allow that the '08 already had a year of depreciation built in, and we now see how big that depreciation hit actually is. Personally, I also decided I really don't want that "AMG Sport package", which is basically some extra fender skirts (which are fine) and the oversize 19" wheels (which look fine but IMHO mess up the ride on bumpy roads and are easily bent).
 
So do tell, how do you feel about the LS460? Does it stir your loins when you drive it, or does it just do everything well but does not inspire you? I have to say that my LS430 is the latter to me.
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Re: I'm back, too [dewey] by garyh1
Jan 06, 2009 (9:32 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 4:44 pm)

Thanks, Dewey, I always appreciated your posts - even when we sometimes (but not often) vehemently disagreed.
 
I agree my conundrum is the kind that is good to have. I hope it didn't sound like I was looking for sympathy!
 
Taking into account the input from here, and some more soul-searching, I think I am coming to the conclusion that I will not worry about the new '09 "perfect car" sitting at the dealer that might get away, and will either wait for a used one equipped the way I want it to show up, or just hold onto the LS for a while longer.
 
Of course, as I am sure every person who participates in this board has felt themselves, once you start thinking about getting new wheels, it is hard to stop pursuing the "dream". But I am going to try to exercise self-control - at least for the moment!

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