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#16978 of 21430 Re: [dewey] by circlew Jan 06, 2009 (12:43 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 12:29 pm) It looks like Honda is hunkering down fore the new reality. Very interesting but I believe all smart business moves for their core brand. Acura might be in big trouble as you suggest. I think the MDX is a solid product, however.   Regards, OW Replies to this message: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 12:55 pm) circlew (Jan 06, 2009 1:59 pm) lexusguy (Jan 06, 2009 2:03 pm)
#16979 of 21430 Investing by dewey Jan 06, 2009 (12:51 pm)
Unlike medicine or engineering, investing is one profession that does not require much aptitude. Believe me I am just an average schmuck whose able to make a living in the investment industry. Fortunatley for me I dont have the aptitude to develop those PHD complex risk models that have ruined many finacial firms and individuals. And fortunately I dont have that Nostradamus chyrstal ball that will tell me market ranges by mid 2009. Otherwise I'd be pursuing my career elsewhere.   As Warren Buffett once said an investor with average intelligence and self control is likely to be far more successful than a genius who is driven by emotions.   Anybody who bases his ego and and his whole life on his personal balance sheet should be investing only in risk free Government paper. Otherwise high risk investing can be as deadly as Russian Roulette.   God bless poor Adolph Merckle and his family.
#16980 of 21430 Re: [circlew] by dewey Jan 06, 2009 (12:55 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Jan 06, 2009 12:43 pm) I agree 100 percent. Honda is being very smart.   As I said I think the luxury segment will become far more exclusive and smaller in future years. The incumbents with heritage in such a market will become strongest while a brand like Acura which has always struggled to define themselves in the luxury segment will become irrelevant. Replies to this message: circlew (Jan 06, 2009 1:59 pm) lexusguy (Jan 06, 2009 2:03 pm)
#16981 of 21430 Re: [dewey] by circlew Jan 06, 2009 (1:59 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 12:55 pm) I believe we on this board beat the new TL to death but I can not understand going from the previous, really nice looking design to the horrid outcome of the 2009 monster. Only thing that comes to mind is at least it's not as boring as the RL was.   Perhaps Acura has caught the dreaded GM influenza of the past!   Regards, OW
#16982 of 21430 Re: [dewey] by lexusguy Jan 06, 2009 (2:03 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 12:55 pm) Acura also had plans for a launch in the Japanese domestic market which have been scrapped. They also wont follow Infiniti to Europe. I think most of the 2nd tier luxury brands - Acura, Volvo, and Saab especially, are in serious trouble. As their prices keep creeping upward, while the top tier brands continue to expand downward, they are getting squeezed out.   They can't offer the badge, or the dedicated RWD platforms, or the materials quality. Why pay $43k for an ugly, glorified Accord?
#16983 of 21430 Re: I'm back, too [garyh1] by dewey Jan 06, 2009 (4:44 pm)
Replying to: garyh1 (Jan 05, 2009 1:01 am) Welcome back Gary,   good to hear about your successful sale and even better to hear about your new object of interest: A MB S Class.   Pardon me for being such a simple Luddite but I am not as informed about the new MB S Class as I am about MBs from the 1970s or before that time.   A spanking new S Class, a 2 year old S Class or your current Lexus LS?    All three sound great to me. You cant go wrong with that choice. Good luck with whatever you choose. Replies to this message: garyh1 (Jan 06, 2009 9:32 pm)
#16984 of 21430 Acura by dewey Jan 06, 2009 (4:46 pm)
Lexusguy and Circlew,   I think this latest news proves that Honda is raising the white flag in the luxury segment. Acura may soon become Honda's Oldsmobile. Replies to this message: circlew (Jan 06, 2009 5:14 pm) lexusguy (Jan 06, 2009 6:04 pm)
#16985 of 21430 Re: Acura [dewey] by circlew Jan 06, 2009 (5:14 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 4:46 pm) Very interesting. I do not doubt anything anymore. You are either dedicated to it or get out.   Regards, OW
#16986 of 21430 Re: Acura [dewey] by lexusguy Jan 06, 2009 (6:04 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Jan 06, 2009 4:46 pm) I think this latest news proves that Honda is raising the white flag in the luxury segment. Acura may soon become Honda's Oldsmobile.   Well, at the very least Acura's "we're going to be a tier one player that's taken seriously" plans are over. So much for the $70K Acura.

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