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Re: Seasons greetings [dewey] by circlew
Dec 31, 2008 (3:45 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Dec 30, 2008 8:58 pm)

During winter my BMW 335i is like an immobile piece of metal during snow storms. And here in Toronto we do get our share of snow storms.
 
I had a dispute over at the BMW forums regarding the usefulness of my 330xi vs. RWD. The die-hard RWD theory is that all you need is to know how to handle the RWD and it outperforms awd every time.
 
I had an opportunity to drive a 335i for a full day (330xi service) and the SC/TC engaged many times on slick roads during some spirited turns. Not so with the x-drive. The difference is huge, even with all-weather tires in the snow. My experience says for complete control, awd is the ticket....less fun, mind you but we are talking extreme traction particularly at the limit.
 
Have you tried the x-drive version of the 335?
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Seasons greetings [circlew] by jimbres
Dec 31, 2008 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Dec 31, 2008 3:45 am)

The die-hard RWD theory is that all you need is to know how to handle the RWD and it outperforms awd every time.
 
There's more to it than that. The RWD fans also believe in the right tire for the job: dedicated snows for winter driving & performance rubber for the warmer months. You'll find that they don't much like all-season tires, which are never more than just good enough to get by.
 
Here in the NY metro area, there are no more than 20 days per year when we really need AWD. Why, then, drag around that fun-killing weight the other 345 days? When I've driven a 3-series xi, I've been reminded of an athlete who's been AWOL from training camp for the last 2 weeks. The driving experience is certainly pleasant enough, but the edge isn't there. The car feels willing but sort of flabby.
 
Admittedly, when a winter storm does hit, I can leave my 330i in the garage & take our 4WD CR-V. But if I couldn't have both cars, I'd gladly settle for the BMW shod with the right tires for the season.
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Re: Seasons greetings [jimbres] by drgums
Dec 31, 2008 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 31, 2008 5:59 am)

I have to add some additional comments on this topic....I have driven BMW's for over 25 years. I have gone from the 3 series to 5 series to the X5 all with manual transmissions. I live in the Northeast.
 
There is no question( in my opinion) that the x drive..(.I currently drive the 2009 535i with x drive) is the way to go here. The car drives like a dream. Just fantastic. The best BMW yet. I wouldn't know the difference if the car weighs more or handles slightly different. All I know is the car runs and handles great in any kind of weather..good or bad. The recent winter storm here I was able to drive in 7-9 inches on hills, slick roads, parking lots etc...I really don't have any complaints...and BTW..I drove the rear wheel drive 5 series for many years and although the recent models have improved ( the rear wheel drive styles)...I was miserable driving the RWD in any adverse weather condition. That is not the case anymore!
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Re: Seasons greetings [drgums] by jimbres
Dec 31, 2008 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: drgums (Dec 31, 2008 6:41 am)

The 5 is a larger, heavier car to begin with, so the added weight of xDrive won't hurt its handling as much. And if I bought a 5, I'd pick the wagon - it's a better looking car than the sedans, IMO - & that comes only with xDrive.
 
In fact, a CPO 535 wagon might be my next car. Last spring, a friend who was thinking about leasing one asked me for my opinion (always a dangerous thing): should he choose stick or automatic? I told him that I would never again drink with him if he opted for the slushbox. Suitably chastened, he picked out a silver/black wagon with a stick. I've driven it; it's a terrific car. By the time it comes off lease, my 330i will be pushing 10 years, & I'll be ready for something larger & more luxurious. I'll follow him down to the dealership when he turns it in & buy it, if the price is right.
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Re: [m4d_cow] by rockshocka1
Dec 31, 2008 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Dec 30, 2008 10:16 am)

OW, Tony, Jose & M4D Cow, thanks for the info. I tend to agree with the notion of 10+ miles would make me balk. Especially being an ordered car.
 
Tony, don't think you were being petty at all. I wouldn't accept 20+ miles. As you know, the dealer's biggest flaw may be their lack of product on the lot, hence my worries.
 
If she comes in over 10, may well march over to BMW & pick one off the lot. I'm tired of the wait. If so, hope the dealer is as good as Jose's.
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Citroen fondness by jlbl
Dec 31, 2008 (12:30 pm)
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For those of you that are or were Citroen addicts, let me post here this link to the last Citroen model I've owned (early this Century). Excellent car. Still sometimes I find myself with lurk desires to drive her.
 
Citroen Xantia Activa
 
Mine was painted in British Racing Green.
 
Activa hydro gas suspension, even its anti-rolling bar, was electronically controlled. It anticipated the development BMW introduced later. Nevertheless, as stable and agile as this car was, the Xantia Activa steering and driving feeling were far from those of good 3-Series. (For starting, Xantia Activa was FWD, and that mattered.)
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: [rockshocka1] by anthonyp
Dec 31, 2008 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: rockshocka1 (Dec 31, 2008 11:33 am)

Strange you should say BMW...After my wife purchased her car, I almost ended up with a 7, but marched my self over to the Audi and ordered one...The wait was just like yours--a long one-- but Audi really has a lock if you want one....You can`t buy a car with the nicer options unless you order it ....Mr Rock I urge you to tell your salesman how you feel as it would be a shame to wait this long and have the car have a few more miles than you think it should..Remember they take it out to fill up the gas tank, and on the gps you can see where it has been en route to being delivered...Somehow mine went from Texas up to Wisconsin, then over and down the East Coast...It was moved on the transporter, therefore the engine was started and recorded on the gps...I know the manager at that time tested it out, therefore the few extra miles...I did not like it, therefore I warned you, so you wouldn`t experience that....As you noted , the inventory , isn`t all that large, so a special car like you have orderd is well worthwhile to protect....This is the last correspondence I will have with you members this year, so everyone have a good new year and I sure hope it is alot better than this last one. Tony ps Tag those were kind words you addressed to me via Dewey thank you, and Howard- if you are coherant(sp) Jose `you to`-- Hi
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Re: Citroen fondness [jlbl] by cdnpinhead
Dec 31, 2008 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: jlbl (Dec 31, 2008 12:30 pm)

Mine was painted in British Racing Green.
 
Wonderful colour. I had much fun in an MGB (grey) that would have been even better if it had been BRG. Much later I bought a Miata the only year they offered BRG ('91), but I didn't spend the extra to get it. Wished I had (many times) later.
 
Happy New Year, by the way, Jose. Continue enjoying that Bimmer of yours (as if. . .).
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Happy New Year to all of you by jlbl
Dec 31, 2008 (2:38 pm)
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I'm just leaving the forum and closing the computer to go for dining and celebration until Year 2009. I wish every one here nice 00:00 kisses and good desires filled up to satisfaction through next year!
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: Happy New Year to all of you [jlbl] by circlew
Dec 31, 2008 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: jlbl (Dec 31, 2008 2:38 pm)

Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year to All!
 
Best Regards,
OW

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