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Re: Good things eventually come to an end [tagman] by dewey
Dec 01, 2008 (4:42 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Dec 01, 2008 1:23 pm)

I definitely want the car with the best technology. Styling is not an issue. Pricing is not an issue when compared to buying another performance car. So yes it look like do not pass go, do not collect $200 and go directly to Prius.
 
A 4 x4 truck or crossover? I like my vehicles SMALL.
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Infiniti FX50 by dewey
Dec 01, 2008 (5:13 pm)
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Two pictures of the Infiniti FX50
 
Front
 

 
Side Profile
 

 
Jeremy Clarkson and before that Edmunds in 2003 noticed the uncanny resemblance
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Re: Infiniti FX50 [dewey] by tagman
Dec 01, 2008 (6:24 pm)
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Re: Good things eventually come to an end [2001gs430] by lexusguy
Dec 01, 2008 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Dec 01, 2008 5:37 am)

yes, but we are talking 2015 target here. That's five to six MY away, and you don't think this recession would be distant memorory?
 
'Fraid not. I think we're going to be in this one for the long haul. The auto market will eventually recover I'm sure, with some adjustments and a general shift to smaller cars. I think the Q5 will be a hit and the A3 will enjoy much bigger sales than it does now, at the expense of nearly nonexistent sales of the Q7 and A8. The mid-lux market is also likely to not recover to some 150,000 sales a year for the major brands, so the A6 probably will not see a huge sales increase, even if the 2011 version is amazing. Something like the A1 could also do very well if they decide to bring it here.
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Re: Good things eventually come to an end [dewey] by lexusguy
Dec 01, 2008 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Dec 01, 2008 12:15 pm)

I will get a FWD Prius which is at least better in the snow.
 
I wouldn't be so sure about that. From what I've heard, those skinny, low resistance tires are absolutely horrible in the snow. A hybrid Camry might be a better choice in that situation.
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Re: Infiniti FX50 [dewey] by lexusguy
Dec 01, 2008 (7:25 pm)
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Jeremy Clarkson and before that Edmunds in 2003 noticed the uncanny resemblance
 
I think Infiniti is going to be surprised that the European press (and especially Jeremy Clarkson) aren't nearly as nice about their cars as say, C&D.
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Top Gear... BMW M3 vs. Lexus IS-F by tagman
Dec 01, 2008 (8:23 pm)
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This is an awesome video of the Lexus IS-F pitted against the BMW E90 M3. For those who haven't seen it yet, here's the link.
 
link title
 
 
 
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Re: Infiniti FX50 [dewey] by bmlexus
Dec 02, 2008 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Dec 01, 2008 5:13 pm)

You're being very unfair to the FX,
 
I myself am not a fan of the Infiniti or the FX, but I can’t see it being compared to a fat ugly whatever that is.
 
I personally don't like coupe's I don't like the 1 series or 3 series, But I never complain how bad looking or tiny it is.
 
There are too many x6 haters as well, they say the x6 is useless, but I never understood this, if something is useless for you don’t mean it’s useless for others.
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by m4d_cow
Dec 02, 2008 (6:51 am)
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maybe it's the different blend in every area. Seattle's best taste better here. Of course the Sumatran makes all the difference, that I agree. yet nothing beats Kona....
 
As for now I'm enjoying a pack of pure Indonesian Torajan coffee I brought home (sumatran happens to be from indonesia too). Very strong flavor and a hint of sour in it, well it's arabican anyway...
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by m4d_cow
Dec 02, 2008 (7:00 am)
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My premonition: when Hyundai really enters the luxury market, Acura will become the easiest victim. The styling's gone nuts and the value is getting thin, not sure what's in Acura's mind. Lexus ES will become another easy prey, afterall I dare dismiss it as the cheapest looking Lexus, even the interior isnt up to Lexus own standard imo.
 
Infiniti however, will most likely remain untouchable for a while. This due to Infiniti's clear mission, focus on performance first, luxury second. Only the Germans are currently capable of taking Infiniti's strong blows. Smart move, walking the path both other Japanese (performance) and the Germans (value) missed. As sales remain steady, I guess this method is a success. This Hyundai does not have. Of course, for this particular reason I doubt there'll be anymore Qs and QXs coming soon, performance and value are tiny bullets in the realm of 4-wheel mammoths.
 
Hyundai should also start looking at it's domestic rival Ssangyong for a little lesson in interior materials. The cars are plain ugly out and bland inside, but the materials used are first rate. On par with Acura and MB I dare say, but below Lexus-Audi standard. No wonders there as Ssangyong learned 1sthand from co-developing it's earlier cars w/ MB (early models even used MB engines). Target the top-line Chairman for comparison. I experienced this car years ago (albeit in the backseat) in Incheon, s.Korea. The wood is real, smooth leather and high-quality plastics inside, plus standard TV??? There's even an extended version sold mainly to CEOs and business tycoons. A good start if Hyundai wish to learn more.
 
I wonder, bmlexus, which area are you at? I've never seen a single Pagani Zonda anywhere in US. The only one I've seen was a black one in Madrid... If I remember correctly it was in front of a downtown plaza with loads of red flowers, arrgghh, I can't remember the place's name.

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