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Re: [m4d_cow] by lexusguy
Nov 30, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 28, 2008 11:07 am)

Whoa, really? That's way below Edmunds TMV of $40k+. Did you mean $42-47k or really $32-37k? If that's true then helloooww CLS500.
 
I really meant $32-37K. Walk into a Mercedes dealer around here with $37K, and you can drive away in a certified CLS500.
 
I saw a silver 650 coupe on the road yesterday, making a left in front of me. It just isn't a pretty car. The droopy front makes it look like its falling asleep, and the trunk lid still looks lifted from a different car. On the other hand, a deep blue A5 was behind me on the highway with its lights on, and then passed me and I was behind it on the exit ramp. Gorgeous car. The rear end reminds me of the Gran Turismo.
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Re: Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? [clembo] by lexusguy
Nov 30, 2008 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: clembo (Nov 28, 2008 4:25 pm)

Look at Infiniti as an example of not really getting it done. One could make the case that their cars are as good or better than Lexus but they have not been able to convince most high end buyers to spend their $ on them.
 
Infiniti has been a viable luxury car company for about 2 years. The original Q wasn't bad, but the marketing was horrible and Infiniti didn't keep it competitive. After a few years, the LS left it in the dust. The G20, M30, and J30 were bland, forgettable JDM Nissan imports, and the I30 and QX4 were just Maximas and Pathfinders with the Nissan logo crossed out. Infiniti proves that having a separate luxury brand/dealer network means absolutely nothing if you have no product. The fact that the M sells as well as it does, smashing the RL, and A6, and often beating the GS, proves that great product can overcome nearly anything.
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Re: My Thanksgiving Is Now Complete! [dewey] by lexusguy
Nov 30, 2008 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 29, 2008 11:09 am)

But my BMW 335 from the day I picked up my car to today has made me eager to consider another brand next time.
 
Perhaps the S4 has your name on it?
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Re: My Thanksgiving Is Now Complete! [rockshocka1] by lexusguy
Nov 30, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: rockshocka1 (Nov 29, 2008 4:55 pm)

When I get my S5, it's going to give me instant respect.
 
I will say this, those LEDs in the rear view say "outta the way, bub" in a way that BMW's halos do not.
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Re: Rare old Porsches and other impressive car [jlbl] by circlew
Nov 30, 2008 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Nov 30, 2008 7:33 am)

Hi Jose,
 
The weather is the same in good old New Jersey. All the CTR3's are in storage!
 
I am in hibernation mode watching the NY Giants vs. Washington Redskins in U.S. football right now. Giants lead 7 -0.
 
Counting the days before I turn in my 2006 330xi at the end of December...what a ride!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: My Thanksgiving Is Now Complete! [lexusguy] by tagman
Nov 30, 2008 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 30, 2008 10:02 am)

I will say this, those LEDs in the rear view say "outta the way, bub" in a way that BMW's halos do not.
 
In a different way, yes... and those LEDs are kinda cool, although a bit Vegas, but I like 'em anyway. Unfortunately, everyone will be using them in one form or another, soon enough... bet on it.
 
But, I'm really not so sure Audi has climbed all that high on the visual intimidation ladder, with exception of the R8. Certainly Audi styling has improved and in some cases is outright gorgeous... but, for the most part, I still see performance Audis as wolves in sheep's clothing. And there's something to be said for that, as other non-suspecting challenging drivers end up getting their pants blown away and wonder WTF just happened.
 
TM
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Re: Good things eventually come to an end [lexusguy] by tagman
Nov 30, 2008 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 30, 2008 9:22 am)

Every time my wife and I are in New York, we get Deli sandwiches, and stock up on Zabars and H&H Bagels. Its a ritual.
 
It was a great trip. It really was. I got back home last night, and today I am enjoying this perfect 70-degree day... it's always nice to come home.
 
Now, I have to conquer my financial woes and keep our home. Failure is not an option.
 
TM
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Re: My Thanksgiving Is Now Complete! [lexusguy] by tagman
Nov 30, 2008 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 30, 2008 9:57 am)

Perhaps the S4 has your name on it?
 
I doubt an S4 is in the cards for our Canadian friend. I'm betting on the Toyota Prius, or Lexus variant. It's totally understandable.
 
BTW, gasoline prices have plummeted here... under $2 a gallon in the California Bay Area is unheard of. "Those foreign oil suppliers that wish us harm" want to hook us all over again, and watch us commit suicide. I'm not taking the hook this time.
 
Back to the Prius... Toyota has announced that the Prius name will NOT become its own marque anytime soon, as recently contemplated. It will remain a Toyota, at least for now.
 
TM
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Re: Rare old Porsches and other impressive car [jlbl] by anthonyp
Nov 30, 2008 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: jlbl (Nov 30, 2008 7:33 am)

Hi Jose
 
You paint a good picture with your words....I too will be back in cold cloudy weather all too soon, but your forefathers discovered a fine new world down here, and I appreciate them Although today is rainy, usually it goes for weeks at a time with nothing but sun, and I then miss an occasional rainy day....I guess it is just in the `genes`.....Tony
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Re: My Thanksgiving Is Now Complete! [tagman] by lexusguy
Nov 30, 2008 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 30, 2008 10:54 am)

I doubt an S4 is in the cards for our Canadian friend. I'm betting on the Toyota Prius, or Lexus variant. It's totally understandable.
 
Yeah, I understand. Still, the S4's performance to efficiency ratio is nearly unbeatable. They are promising combined mid 20s, matching or exceeding the numbers of the GS450h. And unlike the Prius, SPG (smiles per gallon) should be off the charts

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