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Re: Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? [dm1212] by cdnpinhead
Nov 28, 2008 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: dm1212 (Nov 28, 2008 6:48 pm)

". . .I'm a name dropper, and would be embarrassed to drive a Hyundai."
 
Hmmm, I'm guessing you'd be embarrassed to be seen in a Hyundai, and that actually driving the thing, or enjoying whatever it had to offer, are way (way) down on your list.
 
To each their own.
 
Enjoy those fashion accessories.
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Re: As for Panamera [m4d_cow] by jlbl
Nov 29, 2008 (12:58 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 28, 2008 11:15 am)

The front is ok, though a bit Lotus-like in appearance
 
I find the ressemblance of some Porche models to some Lotus models has a long way back. As an example:
 
Lotus Elan M100 (1989-1995)

 

 
and 1990 944 S2 Cabrio (taken from Mystery car pix thread)

 
Regards,
Jose
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Hi by bmlexus
Nov 29, 2008 (2:10 am)
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Whoever dislikes Hyundai seems to be taking a shot at it.
 
Looks like many here want the badge more than the quality.
 
No other manufacture is improving or growing as fast as the Korean manufacture.
 
Time will tell.
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Re: Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? [clembo] by bmlexus
Nov 29, 2008 (2:13 am)
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Replying to: clembo (Nov 28, 2008 4:25 pm)

Look at Infiniti as an example of not really getting it done. One could make the case that their cars are as good or better than Lexus
 
Better than Lexus
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Re: Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? [bmlexus] by clembo
Nov 29, 2008 (3:44 am)
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Replying to: bmlexus (Nov 29, 2008 2:13 am)

Better than Lexus
 
Obviously the LS is in a category that Infiniti doesn't compete in currently. One could easily argue that the G and the M are better than the ES and GS. I don't think Infiniti is a better car company than Lexus but I'll stand with the statement. Neither one is a company that I put ahead of the Germans when I am loking for a car.
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Re: Hi [bmlexus] by tagman
Nov 29, 2008 (4:17 am)
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Replying to: bmlexus (Nov 29, 2008 2:10 am)

Yes! I am very surprised... no, shocked... that the badge means more than the car itself to so many on this particular forum.
 
I guess it's OK for BMW to have some bad dealers because the cars are great, but it wouldn't matter how great a car Hyundai builds because it's got the Hyundai badge.
 
The Genesis is a rare value in the lux segment. Kudos to Hyundai.
 
TM
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Re: My BMW 335i [dewey] by kamdog
Nov 29, 2008 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 26, 2008 8:00 am)

I average 25 mpg in my 535. It is waaaay too easy to keep your foot in it with these engines, and when you do, mileage plummets. I therefore save it until I need it. Even keeping it a bit light, I always find myself well ahead of the pack at stop lights and such.
 
I only use DS rarely, like when I want to take off in 1st from the line, otherwise, I have found that I just don't need to keep it there, the tranny downshifts so smoothly that when I need speed, I just use my right foot.
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Re: My BMW 335i [kamdog] by tagman
Nov 29, 2008 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: kamdog (Nov 29, 2008 5:01 am)

Steptronic owners often report better fuel economy than those of us that row our own gears. It's no surprise really.
 
You are right that the mileage goes off a cliff when you put your foot into the twin-turbo engine. On flat terrain, in high gear, at freeway speed, the engine will deliver decent fuel economy. There are many hills and elevation changes in my area, which just destroy the gas mileage. Plus, the usual California traffic. Sure, now and then I can get mid-twenties easily, but I cannot average more than 17.2 mpg overall.
 
I'm OK with that until I finally go with a hybrid. Just waiting for a hybrid with a bit of a cool/fun factor. Shouldn't be too much longer... maybe a year.
 
BTW, had a great steakhouse dinner here in NYC. Tried some street vendor food and it was good, too. That bagel, lox, cream cheese thing was a big surprise too. Man, these New Yorkers know how to eat!
 
Now, time to go back home to some of the best seafood and California cuisine. And I'm definately ready to go to Fisherman's Wharf and get some fresh cracked crab with drawn butter.
 
TM
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Re: My BMW 335i [tagman] by circlew
Nov 29, 2008 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 29, 2008 9:52 am)

Ah, I remember the Sardine Factory in Monterey...nice eats!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: My BMW 335i [tagman] by dewey
Nov 29, 2008 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 29, 2008 9:52 am)

Hey Tag,
 
my family members who are from your neck of the woods are visiting us here for Thanksgiving.
 
Steaks, pizzas, buttered crabs, over sized deli sandwiches. Your cusine tours of NYC makes my stomach growl.
 
Kona coffee is hard to find in Toronto and believe it or not I found a pack at Costco with a oversized pack of Blue Mountain Jamaican coffee. In fact I enjoy my coffee more than food itself.

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