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Re: Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? [louiswei] by dm1212
Nov 28, 2008 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 28, 2008 10:25 am)

When I hear "Hyundai", I immediately think..."Garbage". Before the Genesis, you would have had to be dumb to buy a Hyundai. You still are dumb today if you have bought a Genesis. Hyundai's are far from "Luxury" vehciles, and the "Genesis" is a perfect example. The Genesis doesn't even have Hyundai badging on it, because it would immediately scare a person away.
 
In a Luxury market, the Genesis would be up against the A6, 5 Series, E Class, and the GS. There is no competition, Hyundai are not luxury cars, never will be, and are junk.
 
Do yourself a favor, spend your 36k else where, perhaps on a 3 Series, A4, or C300.
 
I admit, I'm a name dropper, and would be embarrassed to drive a Hyundai. My first car was a new 92 SC400, which I still have today. Only 81k miles. Currently I'm driving my 05 A6, which is above and beyond a POS Hyundai..
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Re: My Thanksgiving Is Now Complete! [hpowders] by anthonyp
Nov 28, 2008 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 28, 2008 3:54 pm)

Hi Mr. H
 
It sure is nice to read your excited words again...Now if Dewey were to chime in, I would begin to believe that `All is right with the world---God is in heaven` That is a good thought....Tony
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Re: My Thanksgiving Is Now Complete! [anthonyp] by hpowders
Nov 28, 2008 (7:23 pm)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Nov 28, 2008 7:00 pm)

Hey Tony.
 
I always look forward to getting the January issue of C&D.
 
In this particular issue there is a stunning photo of Chris Bangle's masterpiece, the 3 Series Coupe, in Crimson Red; one of the best photos of a car that I have ever seen.
 
Tony, there are few cars as beautiful as the 3 Series Coupe.
 
As a devout believer in chaos theory, all has always been right with the world.
 
"Wrong" happens to be "right", Tony.
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Re: Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? [dm1212] by cdnpinhead
Nov 28, 2008 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: dm1212 (Nov 28, 2008 6:48 pm)

". . .I'm a name dropper, and would be embarrassed to drive a Hyundai."
 
Hmmm, I'm guessing you'd be embarrassed to be seen in a Hyundai, and that actually driving the thing, or enjoying whatever it had to offer, are way (way) down on your list.
 
To each their own.
 
Enjoy those fashion accessories.
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Re: As for Panamera [m4d_cow] by jlbl
Nov 29, 2008 (12:58 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 28, 2008 11:15 am)

The front is ok, though a bit Lotus-like in appearance
 
I find the ressemblance of some Porche models to some Lotus models has a long way back. As an example:
 
Lotus Elan M100 (1989-1995)

 

 
and 1990 944 S2 Cabrio (taken from Mystery car pix thread)

 
Regards,
Jose
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Hi by bmlexus
Nov 29, 2008 (2:10 am)
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Whoever dislikes Hyundai seems to be taking a shot at it.
 
Looks like many here want the badge more than the quality.
 
No other manufacture is improving or growing as fast as the Korean manufacture.
 
Time will tell.
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Re: Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? [clembo] by bmlexus
Nov 29, 2008 (2:13 am)
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Replying to: clembo (Nov 28, 2008 4:25 pm)

Look at Infiniti as an example of not really getting it done. One could make the case that their cars are as good or better than Lexus
 
Better than Lexus
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Re: Is There Room in the Luxury Market for Hyundai? [bmlexus] by clembo
Nov 29, 2008 (3:44 am)
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Replying to: bmlexus (Nov 29, 2008 2:13 am)

Better than Lexus
 
Obviously the LS is in a category that Infiniti doesn't compete in currently. One could easily argue that the G and the M are better than the ES and GS. I don't think Infiniti is a better car company than Lexus but I'll stand with the statement. Neither one is a company that I put ahead of the Germans when I am loking for a car.
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Re: Hi [bmlexus] by tagman
Nov 29, 2008 (4:17 am)
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Replying to: bmlexus (Nov 29, 2008 2:10 am)

Yes! I am very surprised... no, shocked... that the badge means more than the car itself to so many on this particular forum.
 
I guess it's OK for BMW to have some bad dealers because the cars are great, but it wouldn't matter how great a car Hyundai builds because it's got the Hyundai badge.
 
The Genesis is a rare value in the lux segment. Kudos to Hyundai.
 
TM
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Re: My BMW 335i [dewey] by kamdog
Nov 29, 2008 (5:01 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 26, 2008 8:00 am)

I average 25 mpg in my 535. It is waaaay too easy to keep your foot in it with these engines, and when you do, mileage plummets. I therefore save it until I need it. Even keeping it a bit light, I always find myself well ahead of the pack at stop lights and such.
 
I only use DS rarely, like when I want to take off in 1st from the line, otherwise, I have found that I just don't need to keep it there, the tranny downshifts so smoothly that when I need speed, I just use my right foot.

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