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Belated Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone by dewey
Nov 27, 2008 (7:49 am)
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Here in Canada we had our Thanksgiving 6 weeks ago. Which works out great because it's not so close to Christmas and you dont have to see your in-laws too soon again.
 
You can blame the pilgirms for making it at Plymouth Rock during late November. Bad timing in my opinon. It would have been so much better if they booked their cruise 6 weeks earlier.
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Re: I guess.... [hpowders] by dewey
Nov 27, 2008 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 27, 2008 6:34 am)

A hybrid Panamera at 25 MPG.
 
Wow talk about Mother Nature Vehicle.
 
A hybrid Panamera makes as much sense as a MB S Class AMG. The AMG is like an overweight sprinter who looks like a good cardiac arrest candidate and the Panamera is like an alcoholic who boasts that he is not really an alcoholic because at least he sips his drinks very slowly.
 
Two pointless endeavors in my opinion
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Re: Porsche Panamera goes live [dewey] by designman
Nov 27, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 26, 2008 7:54 am)

This Panamera reminds me of a BMW X6. Both are niche vehicles that sevrve a niche that barely exists.
 
Funny you should mention the X6. I remember being appalled by it when it first came out. Curiously, it has grown on me as most Bangle-era vehicles never have. I find it to have a downright menacing neanderthal look, kind of like an enormous but intriguing subway cockroach. Not that I would buy one... it's a little too cage-match decadent and impractical for me.
 
BTW, I think Panamera will appeal to a certain new niche and it will steal MB clientele. I agree with Lexusguy on the interior. Also, if it just had a few more inches of overhang on the rear, it would have staved off GS hunchbackitis which is most noticeable in full profile.
 
Happy Thanksgiving. Good to see you guys again. I hope everybody is OK in spite of our troubling times.
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Re: I guess.... [dewey] by hpowders
Nov 27, 2008 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 27, 2008 7:54 am)

Yes. It's too bad BMW and Porsche couldn't stick with what they do best.
 
I will not be buying an X6 or Panamera anytime soon. However, I intend to "window-shop" the latter. Curiosity has gotten the better of me-could the actual car be as ugly as the photos reveal?
 
I am quite content with my recently-purchased beautiful sport-packaged BMW 328i.
 
Thank you. Chris Bangle. You are truly the Michelangelo of car designers.
 
PS-You can cross the border, Dewey, buy a turkey dirt cheap tomorrow on Black Friday and freeze it for next Thanksgiving; assuming you can still find a bird that hasn't already been pardoned by the out-going Bush Administration.
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Re: I guess.... [hpowders] by laurasdada
Nov 27, 2008 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 27, 2008 8:23 am)

"Thank you. Chris Bangle. You are truly the Michelangelo of car designers."
 
I find Bangle to be more Salvador Dali-ish. I'll hang the Michelangelo tag on Ian Callum or Walter D'Silva...
 
Happy Turkey past and present, all! Be thankful that we can still afford our internet connections to continue to share witticisms...!
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Re: I guess.... [laurasdada] by hpowders
Nov 27, 2008 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Nov 27, 2008 9:12 am)

Yes, Dali, as in having the courage and the genius to be daringly different.
 
Yet I believe Bangle's most conservative designs, the 3 Series in sedan and coupe forms are his best work.
 
Time to watch the Lions go 0-12.
 
Don't over-indulge, folks. You will hate yourself, tomorrow.
 
Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
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Re: The Death of BMW M Series As We Know Them [dewey] by lexusguy
Nov 27, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 27, 2008 7:44 am)

It's not a surprise to see M go the turbo route. Audi's 4.2L V8 is one of the best engines in the world, but the S5 gets mileage in the teens. That kind of thinking just cant continue. The 3.0TFSI may not have the V8's exhaust note, but next year's S5 will be just as fast and handle better, with 24 or so mpg. Sounds win win to me. Considering how good BMW's TT I6 and V8's already are, imagine what the M versions would be like.
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Re: Porsche Panamera goes live [designman] by dewey
Nov 27, 2008 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: designman (Nov 27, 2008 8:13 am)

Great to hear from you again Designman.
 
You're like a family member of mine who surprisingly visits us every other Christmas or Thanksgiving gathering.
 
Hope we hear from you more often then just those two days. How about Easter Day or Columbus Day too?
 
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Re: I guess.... [hpowders] by dewey
Nov 27, 2008 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 27, 2008 8:23 am)

I am assuming you can still find a bird that hasn't already been pardoned by the out-going Bush Administration
 
Thanks for the suggestion. In fact if you refer to the video clip below I already bought that Alaskan turkey that is behind Sarah Palin's head.
 
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