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Re: Happy Thanksgiving [anthonyp] by hpowders
Nov 26, 2008 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Nov 26, 2008 2:07 pm)

Have a very happy Thanksgiving, Tony.
 
Now that my wife has her license, I seem to be down to one car again. Yet by my admittedly rough calculations, I seem to be actually washing two cars.
 
It didn't take her long to find the mall.
 
Thanks for the good wishes!
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I guess.... by hpowders
Nov 26, 2008 (3:05 pm)
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"Panamera" must mean "huge rear blind spot" in Italian.
 
The only one I've seen that's almost this bad is the Lexus ES 350.
 
That last photo had me ROTFLMAO!!!
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Re: I guess.... [hpowders] by tagman
Nov 26, 2008 (9:08 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 26, 2008 3:05 pm)

Let's see what the Panamera looks like in real life. Afterall, it's a Porsche. I'll give them a little benefit of the doubt.
 
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Re: I guess.... [tagman] by hpowders
Nov 27, 2008 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 26, 2008 9:08 pm)

Leipzig may never be the same.
 
Glad to see VW is playing a role in the Panamera's production.
 
That's going to be one expensive hybrid. However, achieving 25 mpg would be a dazzling feat, given the vehicle's mass and power.
 
Hope it looks better in person. The photos seem to indicate that it is a stretched-out, bloated Cayman. Worth a trip to the dealer to see one up close.
 
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The Death of BMW M Series As We Know Them by dewey
Nov 27, 2008 (7:44 am)
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"This may matter for some BMW fans but overall if these turbocharged engines produce blistering performance they may gain more new fans."
 
Tough emissions standards worldwide and soaring manufacturing costs in Germany are behind BMW's decision to switch from high-revving, naturally aspirated engines in its M high-performance vehicles to turbocharged direct-injection powerplants, beginning as early as next year.
 
The move, which could alter the character of BMW M models, places question marks over the immediate future of the M3's 4.0-liter V8 and the M5's 5.0-liter V10. Both engines will make way for forced-induction engines in coming years, according to high-ranking BMW sources.
 
The first M vehicle to make the move to the new turbo powerplants is the X6 xDrive M, which will challenge the Porsche Cayenne GTS and the Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG.
 
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Belated Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone by dewey
Nov 27, 2008 (7:49 am)
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Here in Canada we had our Thanksgiving 6 weeks ago. Which works out great because it's not so close to Christmas and you dont have to see your in-laws too soon again.
 
You can blame the pilgirms for making it at Plymouth Rock during late November. Bad timing in my opinon. It would have been so much better if they booked their cruise 6 weeks earlier.
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Re: I guess.... [hpowders] by dewey
Nov 27, 2008 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 27, 2008 6:34 am)

A hybrid Panamera at 25 MPG.
 
Wow talk about Mother Nature Vehicle.
 
A hybrid Panamera makes as much sense as a MB S Class AMG. The AMG is like an overweight sprinter who looks like a good cardiac arrest candidate and the Panamera is like an alcoholic who boasts that he is not really an alcoholic because at least he sips his drinks very slowly.
 
Two pointless endeavors in my opinion
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Re: Porsche Panamera goes live [dewey] by designman
Nov 27, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 26, 2008 7:54 am)

This Panamera reminds me of a BMW X6. Both are niche vehicles that sevrve a niche that barely exists.
 
Funny you should mention the X6. I remember being appalled by it when it first came out. Curiously, it has grown on me as most Bangle-era vehicles never have. I find it to have a downright menacing neanderthal look, kind of like an enormous but intriguing subway cockroach. Not that I would buy one... it's a little too cage-match decadent and impractical for me.
 
BTW, I think Panamera will appeal to a certain new niche and it will steal MB clientele. I agree with Lexusguy on the interior. Also, if it just had a few more inches of overhang on the rear, it would have staved off GS hunchbackitis which is most noticeable in full profile.
 
Happy Thanksgiving. Good to see you guys again. I hope everybody is OK in spite of our troubling times.
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Re: I guess.... [dewey] by hpowders
Nov 27, 2008 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 27, 2008 7:54 am)

Yes. It's too bad BMW and Porsche couldn't stick with what they do best.
 
I will not be buying an X6 or Panamera anytime soon. However, I intend to "window-shop" the latter. Curiosity has gotten the better of me-could the actual car be as ugly as the photos reveal?
 
I am quite content with my recently-purchased beautiful sport-packaged BMW 328i.
 
Thank you. Chris Bangle. You are truly the Michelangelo of car designers.
 
PS-You can cross the border, Dewey, buy a turkey dirt cheap tomorrow on Black Friday and freeze it for next Thanksgiving; assuming you can still find a bird that hasn't already been pardoned by the out-going Bush Administration.

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