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by gardis
Nov 25, 2008 (6:02 pm)
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Hi Guys,
I had a good conversation with a salesman at a BMW dealer in CT here about a nice 2007 530xi I have my eyes on. It's got 18K miles, and they're asking $39K for it (premium package, sports package). He told me the car had one owner, went into service APRIL 2008!! The owner bought it in New London (BMW dealer), lives in New Haven, traded it in for a 7 Series! He practically read me the service record for the vehicle. It has no issues, except a power window issue which they fixed. The warranty covers the vehicle until April 2014 and the 50K mile warranty goes until 2012. I'm going to see the vehicle over the weekend. The guy was totally transparent and answered every question I had. No pressure whatsoever. The first owner turned the car in at 16K miles, and then a BMW rep had the car for the next 2K miles. The salesman told me I could speak to that BMW rep about how the car handled anytime I want.
 
Meanwhile, at the other dealer in Westchester county, NY, where I saw another 530xi 2007 last week, but wasn't that crazy about it, the sales woman called me about another vehicle they just got in, going through certification, and "maybe you should put down a deposit because they're a lot of sales reps here, the car might go...." But I wouldn't hear of it without seeing the car. She thinks I will like the car. ACtually I saw the car listed onthe BMWUSA website, it wasn't even out on the lot yet. That' s a pretty good way to track down vehicles.
 
I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm thinking it over carefully. I figure the car is almost new, let's face it, and the warranty goes for another 5 years. I pretty much decided to pass on the 2008 535i I saw and went nuts over, because that's just too over-powered for me.........
 
Any thoughts?
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Porsche Panamera goes live by lexusguy
Nov 26, 2008 (1:22 am)
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Still not loving it. The space behind the hatch seems very limited for a big sedan, and the interior is just... odd. It seems like something that would come out of Doc's Delorean. Very '80s.
 





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Re: Porsche Panamera goes live [lexusguy] by jlbl
Nov 26, 2008 (5:17 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 26, 2008 1:22 am)

Although last 911 lines have eventually grown in my appreciation, I often find Porsche style quite odd, usually not for good but for bad.
 
I like Panamera as watched from the front or the oblique front angle. All other views are very round, very soft, or as you say very '80. Quite undefined, IMO.
 
In some way Panamera reminds me of the (European) Ford Mondeo or, in other words, of a mechanical blood sausage painted in grey (in the Panamera pics).
 
In Panamera I like too the front wheel vent.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: Porsche Panamera goes live [lexusguy] by tagman
Nov 26, 2008 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 26, 2008 1:22 am)

LG,
  
As you know, pics so often do not do a car justice. The Nissan GT-R was a recent example.
 
I think the latest Panamera pics have been fairly good, so I'm thinking the car might be very nice. So far I like it quite a bit. I really do. As you probably recall, it was originally on my radar... but at this point, acquiring one is impossible.
 
TM
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Hello everyone by bmlexus
Nov 26, 2008 (6:42 am)
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I've seen sick since the last 3 weeks:
 
I spotted my first 7 series today, 750li blue colour, it was looking amazing, I can't imagine it would be so nice in person.
 
Its the best looking sedan I've ever seen.
 
Much better than the S class or the LS460l
 
Doesn't look as big as the previous 7 series, very well put together, its wider then the previous gen, yet it looks smaller.
 
I wonder how does bmw do it
 
On my way back home spotted a red bugatti veyron and a pagoni zonda
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Re: Porsche Panamera goes live [lexusguy] by dewey
Nov 26, 2008 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 26, 2008 1:22 am)

So whose going to buy the Panamera?
 
Porsche enthusiasts? I dont think so.
 
Traditional luxury sedan buyers (i.e. MB S Class or Lexus LS)? I dont think so.
 
Sportier luxury sedan buyers like BMW 7 Series owners? I dont think so. There is a reason why there is no such thing as a BMW M7 . Too much sport for such barges is as ridiculous as having an Olympic match for overweight sprinters. (though dont tell that to MB S Class AMG buyers).
 
Also the hatchback styling is going to turn off many North Americans.
 
This Panamera reminds me of a BMW X6. Both are niche vehicles that sevrve a niche that barely exists.
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My BMW 335i by dewey
Nov 26, 2008 (8:00 am)
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One thing that ceases to amaze me is the low mileage I am getting from my BMW 335i. No I did not expect Prius mileage on such a car but usually when I reach 220 miles I already hear that DING DING DING refueling warning signal.
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Re: Hello everyone [bmlexus] by louiswei
Nov 26, 2008 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: bmlexus (Nov 26, 2008 6:42 am)

Much better than the S class or the LS460l
 
The new 7 looks like an ugly hog from the front end...
 
Purely based on the exterior styling here's my list:
 
S-class > LS > A8 > 7er
 
Doesn't look as big as the previous 7 series
 
Saw the new 7 on display at LA Auto Show the past Sunday, that thing looks HUGE! Although it doesn't look as bloated as the current gen but it does look bigger in presence from my eyes.
 
Panamera? If I am in the market for a luxury 4-door coupe I will wait for the Aston Martin Rapide.
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One Thing, Auto-Related, to be Thankful For... by laurasdada
Nov 26, 2008 (8:33 am)
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I'm going to be paying $1.98/gallon for Premium gas tonight! I remember folks believeing (myself included) that we'd likely not see sub-$3/gallon fuel again... Who knows how long this will last, or how much pain will be in our gasoline future. But for now, gasoline for all!
 
Here's my conspiracy theory: Gas crests $4/gallon. Sales/use of SUVs plummet, conserving fuel, decreasing demand. Evil forces push down the price of gas significatnly, knowing what a short memory some folks have, to create more demand. Slowly increasing the use of/purchases of now bargain priced SUVs, increasing demand allowing prices to march back up to $4, $5/gallon...

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