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Re: I posted last month..... [hpowders] by tagman
Nov 08, 2008 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 08, 2008 5:14 am)

Yes. The VW/Audi team seems to be the most successful during this dismal period.
 
Does that mean I can now say "I told you so" to Dewey... regarding VW?
 
Dewey, what say ye, o' gent from the lands of the north?
 
TM
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by jlbl
Nov 08, 2008 (11:14 am)
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There is an interesting Road Test in Inside Line
 
Opel Insignia
 
Opel has got a well deserved good reputation in Europe year after year. The Insignia promises best class driving for little ( ) money.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: I posted last month..... [tagman] by hpowders
Nov 08, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 08, 2008 6:34 am)

VW's offer a lot of car for the money. Their interiors are always top notch. Show me another manufacturer's vehicle in the $18K-$20k range that has any form of adaptive steering (standard), satellite radio (standard) and a 6 speed Tiptronic transmission.
 
I'm sure Dewey could be quite content behind the wheel of a new GTI/Autobahn package.
 
The more I'm driving the 328i, the more I like it.
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Re: [jlbl] by hpowders
Nov 08, 2008 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Nov 08, 2008 10:14 am)

Sounds good. GM should ditch the 40 mile Volt and instead bring over proven vehicles like the Opel Insignia, to the USA.
 
GM needs something good over here quickly, and the Opel fills the bill.
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Re: [hpowders] by tagman
Nov 08, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 08, 2008 10:51 am)

By the time GM actually brings the Volt to the marketplace, Toyota, Honda, and others will offer superior models that will wrap circles around the Volt.
 
Surely there's got to be someone... anyone... at GM that is playing with a full deck. Are they all just brain dead?
 
What is the reason for the age-old reluctance to offer Americans cars that get great fuel economy? In addition, they need to stop making Cadillac the only GM division that gets the latest and greatest. They need to "spread the wealth" to the other divisions,,, giving them just a tad more of the bling and a whole bunch more of the technology. To do so would help those other divisions become more competitive with the cars coming from Asia and Europe.
 
If they are banking on the Volt, they are going to be very sorry.
 
TM
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Re: [tagman] by circlew
Nov 08, 2008 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 08, 2008 11:22 am)

If they are banking on the Volt, they are going to be very sorry.

They won't last that long to worry if the Volt can save them. Even with Government Money, they will need to give their cars away to keep sales moderate for the next year.
 
Who pays? Who else?
 
Toyota better watch out, though. They can not get complacent which I smell a hint of lately. Honda has a great strategy but Acura is taking the same meds as GM lately. I saw the '09 TL live and it really does revolt as promised from the guys on this board!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: [hpowders] by jlbl
Nov 08, 2008 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 08, 2008 10:51 am)

Howard,
 
All these past years in which I've been posting in Edmunds Forums I've been quite astonished by the scarce appraisal I noticed VW raised among posters. Here in Europe VWs are just what their name says, that is, popular cars. Best buys [Edit: at least, best perceived buys] for their cost.
 
Additionally, Golf and in particular Golf GTIs have been for years the bench mark for the small-size sporty car classes. Relatively big interior for the car size, more than enough equipment, comfort, efficiency and economy. I could say, Golf (GTI) has been the car for the sporty youth?
 
May be the model names were are not adequately chosen. Golf? Even worst, Rabbit? Wrong tags, IMO.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: [jlbl] by tagman
Nov 08, 2008 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: jlbl (Nov 08, 2008 11:41 am)

All these past years in which I've been posting in Edmunds Forums I've been quite astonished by the scarce appraisal I noticed VW raised among posters.
 
For a while I felt like the Lone Ranger here, in support of VW... Even well before I bought my recent GTI.
 
So... Jose, where were you when I needed you?... LOL...
 
May be the model names were are not adequately chosen.
 
Absolutely true.
 
TM
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Re: [circlew] by tagman
Nov 08, 2008 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 08, 2008 11:32 am)

I saw the '09 TL live and it really does revolt as promised from the guys on this board!
 
Yeah... two failures... the Chevrolet Volt and the Acura Re-Volt.
 
TM
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Re: [tagman] by jlbl
Nov 08, 2008 (1:14 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 08, 2008 12:00 pm)

So... Jose, where were you…
 
I can be very lazy some times. Sort of… So what! (¡Y qué más da!). No, this is not the truth; it is only I was afraid the quality of VW exported or built in America would be not the same as in Europe. Adding to that it was the size factor. I'm prone to think that small size and hatched form are not for the North American taste. But I noticed your loving the VWs. The Truth is not in the Size but in the Driving Quality. We fully agree.
 
Regards,
Jose

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