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Re: The 2010 BMW X1 [dewey] by tagman
Nov 07, 2008 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 06, 2008 3:11 pm)

Dewey, I am also through with the political posts. I really look forward to posting about cars again.
 
It's been interesting, however, and everyone without exception has shown valid points of view and noteworthy perspectives. But, as I recently posted, we all essentially want to see America become greater than she already is... and that's indicative that all of us on this board share a genuine patriotism and love for this awesome country. That is what makes our differences small and our similarities large.
 
And... we really do owe a thank you to the hosts that allowed these discussions to continue on this forum, after being told to take them to the political forum. So... thank you, Pat, and the rest of Edmunds working behind the scenes.
 
So, thanks gentleman for the tremendous civility and the humor as well.
 
Man, what is happening to the auto industry? I never thought it could be this serious.
 
TM
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I posted last month..... by hpowders
Nov 07, 2008 (7:19 am)
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that from the incredible incentives BMW was offering, it looked like they were seriously hurting.
 
BMW's global net profit dropped 63% in the third quarter, from 803 million euros to 298 million euros.
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Re: The 2010 BMW X1 [tagman] by circlew
Nov 07, 2008 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 07, 2008 7:00 am)

As for the U.S. Auto industry, I am going to petition the U.S. Government for the C.E.O. position in the new company I proposed. GM and Chrysler would go away as we know it. All Executive management would be changed out and a government oversight position would be installed to track metrics under the pay back plan.
 
I will use the bailout money to buy out workers that can not be part of the new company so they will have enough funds to re-train, including supplier companies that are affected by the massive changes I propose. The U.A.W. would go away under my plan as well as guaranteed pension costs and health care for retired since B.O. will fix health care in the U.S. While I rebuild the Auto Industry and Chevy and Cadillac would emerge when the smoke cleared as the twin divisions.
 
I do not expect any bonus to be paid until every cent of the loans from the Government are paid and profits EXCEED the industry benchmarks.
 
Market share would drop as production is reduced to dry up all of the excess capacity in the new/used market. After 3 years, no old platforms would exist as they are know today. Minimum efficiency specifications for both divisions would be 20 MPG City fuel economy and average would be 35 MPG COMBINED target 2011.
 
Chevy
Corvette
Camaro
Malibu
Caravan
Jeep - 4 variants
Tahoe
WOW (my pet economy car beating Civic price and Economy)
 
Cadillac
Alpha (3-Series Fighter with Economy, Mid-Level and High Performance)
Alpha CUV - Eldorado is the name for the alpha's
CTS - Would be changed to Electra
SRX - Changed to Park Avenue
DTS - Changed to DeVille
Escalade
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: The 2010 BMW X1 [tagman] by dewey
Nov 07, 2008 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 07, 2008 7:00 am)

Ok let's forget the politics of social security and focus on the cars most popular among retirees.
 
Coincidentally there is not a single German car among the top 20 list. It just proves to you that German cars attract people who are young in spirit. If I was a senior citizen I could not see myself in any of those autos on the top 20 lists. Not a single one. But then again never say never--who knows in a few decades that Cadillac DTS will look real desirable.
 
TOP 20
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Re: I posted last month..... [hpowders] by dewey
Nov 07, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 07, 2008 7:19 am)

Toyota earnings are dropping like an anchor too. Fast dropping earnings is the general rule today in the auto industry independent of the car company.
 
Warren Buffett bought GS too early? Yup Warren Buffet is not perfect: Remember he's the same guy who recently bought a Cadillac DTS.
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Re: I posted last month..... [dewey] by hpowders
Nov 07, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 07, 2008 8:50 am)

I have to ask my wife to prod her daughter as to the size of her husband's bonus.
He is a VP in the GS fixed income department. He can't be hurting too much since he is financing his wife's home renovation project to the tune of around $500k.
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Freight train collision destroys 20 new Porsche 997s by bmlexus
Nov 07, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Re: Freight train collision destroys 20 new Porsche 997s [bmlexus] by louiswei
Nov 07, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: bmlexus (Nov 07, 2008 9:48 am)

I don't mind taking one of those for free...
 
Well, not the one that's upside down though.
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Re: Freight train collision destroys 20 new Porsche 997s [bmlexus] by tagman
Nov 07, 2008 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: bmlexus (Nov 07, 2008 9:48 am)

Let's see here... 20 Porsches destroyed... worth about $2million, depending upon which models.
 
 
 
TM
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Re: The 2010 BMW X1 [dewey] by hpowders
Nov 07, 2008 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 07, 2008 8:32 am)

"Not a single one."
 
We think alike.
 
 A Lincoln Town car? Didn't Tony Soprano and his mob use those for body-dumping in the Jersey land-fills?
 
I walked away and retired 14 years before retiree medicare kicks in, so I guess I am not your typical retiree.
 
 Before I retired, I drove a BMW to work, and since I retired-nothing but BMW's, except for a short Rabbit interlude.
 
Why on earth would I want to drive anything but a BMW?

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