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Replying to: tagman (Nov 06, 2008 6:59 pm) Apparently, yes, if modern US history can be used as a guide. We have failed miserably on all of the above from our security being asleep on 9/11; innovative inertia after the 1973-74 energy crisis; over-regulation becoming even more over-regulated; spending billions on a criminal war, while we seem to have no money to assist those unfortunate folks at home who need expensive medicines, and must often choose between purchasing them or food; (no bail out for them!!); an urban public education system that has been an embarrassment for years and a tax system that is so complicated, 10 accountants can do your taxes and each of them will come up with a different amount that you owe or should be refunded. So much needs to be done, and yet nothing happens. Pardon me for being skeptical when I hear a candidate preaching "change." I wasn't exactly born that way. |
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Replying to: anthonyp (Nov 06, 2008 7:31 pm) I know the 328i will give me about 23 mpg on premium fuel; the Rabbit gives me 24-25 on regular. I finally got the driver's seat to my liking and immediately put the settings in both memories. Even the so-called investing greats can't time the market. Warren Buffet bought GS at $115 last month. GS is now priced around 34 bucks below that. This market is making almost everybody a bit more humble. 
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 06, 2008 2:42 pm) Yeah, couldn't agree more 
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Replying to: bmlexus (Nov 06, 2008 10:11 pm) Pretty easy once you've cracked the code.  And with that, I think it's time to get back to smelling the roses and talking about cars. I was out early this morning driving the 328i. Of the 4 BMWs I've had, this one definitely has the most stable, solid feel. Creates the illusion of driving an agile tank. |
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 06, 2008 3:11 pm) It's been interesting, however, and everyone without exception has shown valid points of view and noteworthy perspectives. But, as I recently posted, we all essentially want to see America become greater than she already is... and that's indicative that all of us on this board share a genuine patriotism and love for this awesome country. That is what makes our differences small and our similarities large. And... we really do owe a thank you to the hosts that allowed these discussions to continue on this forum, after being told to take them to the political forum. So... thank you, Pat, and the rest of Edmunds working behind the scenes. So, thanks gentleman for the tremendous civility and the humor as well.  Man, what is happening to the auto industry? I never thought it could be this serious. TM
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that from the incredible incentives BMW was offering, it looked like they were seriously hurting. BMW's global net profit dropped 63% in the third quarter, from 803 million euros to 298 million euros.
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 07, 2008 7:00 am) I will use the bailout money to buy out workers that can not be part of the new company so they will have enough funds to re-train, including supplier companies that are affected by the massive changes I propose. The U.A.W. would go away under my plan as well as guaranteed pension costs and health care for retired since B.O. will fix health care in the U.S. While I rebuild the Auto Industry and Chevy and Cadillac would emerge when the smoke cleared as the twin divisions. I do not expect any bonus to be paid until every cent of the loans from the Government are paid and profits EXCEED the industry benchmarks. Market share would drop as production is reduced to dry up all of the excess capacity in the new/used market. After 3 years, no old platforms would exist as they are know today. Minimum efficiency specifications for both divisions would be 20 MPG City fuel economy and average would be 35 MPG COMBINED target 2011. Chevy Corvette Camaro Malibu Caravan Jeep - 4 variants Tahoe WOW (my pet economy car beating Civic price and Economy) Cadillac Alpha (3-Series Fighter with Economy, Mid-Level and High Performance) Alpha CUV - Eldorado is the name for the alpha's CTS - Would be changed to Electra SRX - Changed to Park Avenue DTS - Changed to DeVille Escalade Regards, OW |
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 07, 2008 7:00 am) Coincidentally there is not a single German car among the top 20 list. It just proves to you that German cars attract people who are young in spirit. If I was a senior citizen I could not see myself in any of those autos on the top 20 lists. Not a single one. But then again never say never--who knows in a few decades that Cadillac DTS will look real desirable. TOP 20
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 07, 2008 7:19 am) Warren Buffett bought GS too early? Yup Warren Buffet is not perfect: Remember he's the same guy who recently bought a Cadillac DTS. 
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 07, 2008 8:50 am) He is a VP in the GS fixed income department. He can't be hurting too much since he is financing his wife's home renovation project to the tune of around $500k. |
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