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Re: What A Difference A Dealer Makes [cdnpinhead] by hpowders
Oct 31, 2008 (5:18 am)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Oct 31, 2008 4:42 am)

Thank you for your good wishes!
 
Since I have the Sport Package, the vehicle has the rather expensive 17" light-alloy double spoke wheels. I read over my Safe Guard tire and wheel warranty and nowhere does it say the tires must be run flats; so, yes, eventually replacing the tires with "real" tires (LOL!!) is a distinct possibility. I had the good sense to purchase, rather than lease, so the tires can be anything I want.
 
Thanks again for the kind words and advice!
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Speaking of RFT's.... by hpowders
Oct 31, 2008 (5:43 am)
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don't you love that commercial where the guy is on the Autobahn obviously going around 100 mph (implied) in his spanking new BMW 5 Series and runs over something that would pulverize a "real" tire; stops, gets out, looks at his run-flat with no apparent damage, says, "Guess I'll be on my way".... with wooden splinters plastered all over the side and roof of his expensive vehicle..... and doesn't even bother to check for body damage!
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Re: Edmunds' S4 First Test [tayl0rd] by louiswei
Oct 31, 2008 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Oct 31, 2008 4:27 am)

No way they'd give me $8K+ off a loaded 335i sedan.
 
Uh... 335i plus premium and sports is NOT loaded. At $42k for a brand new left over '08 is also NOT $8k off the sticker, more like $4k to $5k off like your 550i.
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Re: What A Difference A Dealer Makes [hpowders] by jimbres
Oct 31, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Oct 30, 2008 5:22 pm)

Congrats & best wishes!
 
After you've spent some more time behind the wheel, I'd love to hear how your new 328i stacks up against your '02. In a year or 2, I might replace my E46 (an '01 330i) with an E90.
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Re: What A Difference A Dealer Makes [jimbres] by hpowders
Oct 31, 2008 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Oct 31, 2008 7:55 am)

Thank you very much for those kind words!
 
Well, after one 20 minute drive in the 328i, there are some obvious differences that stand out-the 328i seems to be quite a bit heavier than the 1993 and 2002 325i's, yet achieves the same or better mpg (according to the mpg readout), a tribute to BMW being IMO, the best producer of engines on the planet.
 
The steering is much tighter and requires more effort than the 2002 version, which is fine with me. Others may go for the adaptive steering which I hate.
 
The acceleration from rest is quite a bit better in the 328i. One of my major complaints experienced in my 1993 325i and 2002 325i vehicles with the inline 6 was the disappointingly weak low-end torque that really had no place in one of the world's best sport sedans. BMW has finally fixed the problem and the acceleration from rest is now entirely adequate.
 
The radio (HD version) is too complicated and confusing to program and use, and the accompanying instruction book doesn't help much. The 325i radios were relatively simple. Of course the sound is now fantastic! Before it was barely adequate.
 
IMO, the car has too much technology, much of it confusing and not very user-friendly. BMW would do well to eliminate some of it and cut down on the mass of the vehicle. None of the various user booklets help matters much. When I'm driving, the last thing I need is to be distracted by difficult to use technology.
 
As far as the inline 6 engine is concerned, the 328i represents a major improvement. As for the rest of it, I'm not so sure.
 
Every year C&D reviews the 3 Series and calls it one of the best vehicles on the planet. They concentrate on the driving experience and don't mention or seem to care about most of the technology. I will be doing the same.
 
Thanks again for your kind words!
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Re: Edmunds' S4 First Test [louiswei] by tayl0rd
Oct 31, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Oct 31, 2008 7:41 am)

Sor-RY! I meant "loaded" as in "very well equipped." The 3-series option list isn't exactly extensive. You can get Premium, Sport, Cold, Nav (?) as far as packages go. If it has Premium and Sport, it pretty much has most of the options already.
 
But anyway, I suppose you're right. I always assume that people in the "luxury" segment won't cheap out when it comes to the goodies. Take out Nav and it's ~$6K+/- off. Still a big discount.
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Re: Uh oh! [tagman] by dewey
Oct 31, 2008 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 30, 2008 9:55 pm)

. One or more of them must have also told her they like the CLK.
 
That's certainly your wife's choice but I must say the MB CLK has never interested me and with the new Audi A5/S5 and BMW coupe my interest has declined even further.
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Re: What A Difference A Dealer Makes [hpowders] by dewey
Oct 31, 2008 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Oct 31, 2008 8:25 am)

The way I avoided technology in my BMW 335i was by just choosing the "sport package" and the extra $$$ for a dark gray exterior. That was it nothing more.
 
My frugal Luddite version of a BMW 335i has given me great satisfaction despite my more frequent visits at the dealership due to repairs. This is unlike my 99 BMW 323i which was very reliable and involved minimal dealership visits.
 
If my visits to my dealership remains frequent than I will definitely sell my car within two years to avoid out of warranty expenses.
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The new Prius by dewey
Oct 31, 2008 (9:41 am)
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the Prius sedan will get a slightly larger motor, moving from a 1.5L to a 1.8L motor. A significant bump in the fuel economy rating is also expected. Whispers of a highway rating anywhere between 60 and 80 mpg have been heard.
 
The above will be my likely new car. The first non-luxury car I bought since the 1980s .
 
I have not a clue why but even if fuel prices remain low in the upcoming years my interest in hybrids is just as strong
 
I am not a green/enivro type of guy
 
Nor do I want to pretend or appear to be a green/enviro type of guy
 
Politically speaking I know my choice will make not much of a difference in terms of North American oil indpendence.
 
Paying the high fuel prices during the summer for my BMW did not leave me in distress.
 
Despite the above I still want a hybrid. Maybe it has something to do with my speeding tickets. Driving a hybrid which will challenge me to drive slow in order to maximize fuel efficiency will save me not only fuel costs but also traffic penalty/legal/insurance premium costs.
 
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Re: What A Difference A Dealer Makes [dewey] by hpowders
Oct 31, 2008 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 31, 2008 9:29 am)

You are probably right. Just the SP is probably enough.
 
You could always buy an extended warranty.....

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