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2010 Lexus RX by lexusguy
Oct 29, 2008 (11:24 pm)
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Leaked photos are out. It looks like they took a Venza, crossed out Toyota, and wrote Lexus in using a crayon. The interior is really out there, and it appears that Lexus has followed the rest of the industry and ditched the touch screen for some sort of center stack mounted control knob system. Not promising.
 

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Re: Edmunds' S4 First Test [lexusguy] by tagman
Oct 29, 2008 (11:43 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 29, 2008 11:12 pm)

It sounds really terrific, but to say it would easily kill the 335i is going too far too soon for me. I'm not suggesting that it won't give the 335i a run for its money, or even topple it, but I just prefer to wait and see the head-to-head competition... which will be plenty once the S4 makes its way into the right hands.
 
The S4 pitted against the 335i will offer entertainment I won't want to miss. In fact, being that it's a "S" variant, I'd prefer to see how it will stack up against the M3.
 
No word of a convertible? (my usual interest... LOL.)
 
TM
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Re: 2010 Lexus RX [lexusguy] by tagman
Oct 29, 2008 (11:44 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 29, 2008 11:24 pm)

Lots more vanilla coming from Toyota/Lexus!
 
TM
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Re: Edmunds' S4 First Test [tagman] by lexusguy
Oct 30, 2008 (2:15 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 29, 2008 11:43 pm)

The S4 pitted against the 335i will offer entertainment I won't want to miss. In fact, being that it's a "S" variant, I'd prefer to see how it will stack up against the M3.
  
No word of a convertible? (my usual interest... LOL.)

 
Well, to be fair to the Audi, it only has 329hp, which isn't anywhere close to the M3's power. Considering the 335i is slightly underrated at 300hp (and if they test the Audi vs. a RWD BMW, there's less driveline power loss) that's a much fairer fight. The upcoming RS4 on the other hand ought to give the M guys a few sleepless nights. Audi has shifted convertible duties to the A5, so there won't be another S4 Cab. I have no doubt that Audi is working on a convertible S5, though it will probably be V8 powered, and not as track focused as the S4.
 
Speaking of the M3, Monday's Top Gear Australia tested the 135i coupe against the M3, and I think they actually liked the 135i more. Here's a link: TGA 135 v M3
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Re: Edmunds' S4 First Test [lexusguy] by louiswei
Oct 30, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 29, 2008 11:12 pm)

Sounds like it will easily kill the 335i, for around $54K with ADS and the QuattroSport rear differential.
 
$54k? A 335i competitor? At this economy one can easily get a 335i with sports and premium at around $42k.
 
Thanks Audi but no thanks...
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Re: 2010 Lexus RX [tagman] by louiswei
Oct 30, 2008 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 29, 2008 11:44 pm)

Lots more vanilla coming from Toyota/Lexus!
 
Since you ain't gonna buy this, I am not gonna buy this and everyone who enjoys driving wouldn't buy this so Lexus thought: Why mess with the winning formula?
 
Hence: voila! The new RX!
 
However, let's give credit when credit is due though, Lexus happens to offer a sport-tuned suspension on the new RX as an option so that's progess at least in my opinion.
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Re: 2010 Lexus RX [louiswei] by tagman
Oct 30, 2008 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Oct 30, 2008 7:37 am)

However, let's give credit when credit is due though, Lexus happens to offer a sport-tuned suspension on the new RX as an option so that's progess at least in my opinion.
 
True. I agree with you, although let's wait until the sport-tuned suspension is tested to see just how much credit it actually deserves.
 
But, you must admit the new RX is a missed opportunity.
 
TM
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I am really sad by this picture by bmlexus
Oct 30, 2008 (9:52 am)
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I am sure this is the final outcome.
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Re: 2010 Lexus RX [tagman] by louiswei
Oct 30, 2008 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 30, 2008 9:50 am)

But, you must admit the new RX is a missed opportunity.
 
Missed opportunity for giving the enthusiasts another choice of sporty crossover? Yes.
 
Missed opportunity for giving the RX core buying demography something that they want year after year? No.
 
Again, let's not forget that people who comment here are a tiny amount among in the whole buying population and RX simply is not the car for us.
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Re: I am really sad by this picture [bmlexus] by louiswei
Oct 30, 2008 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: bmlexus (Oct 30, 2008 9:52 am)

Nothing to be sad about.
 
It's the RX, the ultimate soccer mom transportation. This is not your Sport Activity Vehicle from BMW, not your Q7 from Audi, not your FX35/50 from Infiniti and not even your MDX from Acura. This thing is not supposed to be sporty, this thing is all about providing a comfortable ride for the housewives (desperate or not...) to get them and their family from point A to point B without knowing that they are driving. Sad I know but my girlfriend also looked at me funny when I told her why and how much I enjoy driving. I see a RX in her future...
 
The RX is still the best selling luxury SUVs in the market today even with an outdated model so I have no doubt that this new one will continue that successful story. No one can do RX better than Lexus just like no one can do 3-series better than BMW. Give credit when credit is due guys, that's all I have to say.

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