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NO, no, I forgot to mention this (though I did earlier): it doesnt have to be brand new. A CPO will do just fine. Thanks for the suggestions though, helps me think and narrow down the choices. bmlexus, I forgot to post this follow-up on the x6's twin turbo. I couldnt relocate the website so far, but I have this piece of info from the local dealer's mechanic. I'm allowed to post this as long as his name remains anonymous. Here goes: There's been a few complaints overseas about the twin turbo's durability on the 3l engine. Most filed complaints saying the engine somehow overheats after extended driving of 2 hours or more. It appears that the problem remains with the turbo being unsuitable to pull the x6's extra weight. Problem is, the twin turbo's initially developed for lighter sedans and coupes, not for anything heavier than the 5 series. In case you dont know yet, bmw actually expect the majority of takers to treat the X6 as a fashionista's cruiser, not an s-bend blaster. It is said that the newer x6 comes with the revised version of the turbo, along with 2009 products. One thing I havent been able to confirm is whether US bound X6 already get this turbo. The x6 reached the other markets many months sooner than America's, which lead to my assumption of hasty underdeveloped turbos on earlier models. Until there's confirmation I do advice you and all your friends to stay off cuz the turbo's really costly to fix. This is strictly for the 6-cyl turbo, the v8 turbo is pretty much from scratch and will likely do better.
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 18, 2008 7:31 pm) LOL. That's funny. But... I like my iDrive... I really do. And the new one looks to be sweet. Now, on the subject of those hybrids. The picture of the next Toyota Prius has accidently leaked out, and the car looks essentially the same on the exterior with a few minor areas where Toyota messed it up... like that horrible Yaris-looking front end. Pathetic. The interior, however, looks improved slightly.   The Honda Insight is much better looking, especially the front end, rear lights, and the wheels... but, the Prius likely has a better powertrain and the ability to run at slow speeds on all-battery, which historically the Honda hybrids really don't do very well.    TM
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"No, its not a 3rd world Country! its originally made in Japan! " Its designed in Japan but its built locally in Indonesia and Thailand. Also built locally in America, thats why such disparity in build quality baffles me. The ones they have here are much much quieter than the american built ones, and no rattles... I'm very, very disappointed with america. Tag, dont you think the next Toyota Prius' face awfully resembles a car called Toyota Belta? Its funny how so many people are driving the same car here, most are seen nowhere in US, like this Toyota called Innova (somekind of crossover MPV), Nissan Livina (I think its called Note in Japan), and loads of pink Honda Jazz (aka Fit in US). Even funnier as most of the pink cars I see here are driven by men.
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 18, 2008 10:19 pm) Initially IMA couldn't do that at all. The newest version in the Civic Hybrid and Insight has the ability to deliver a very limited amount of electrical power alone, but its nothing compared to the Volt (if GM can stay in business long enough to produce any) and the new Prius. The Insight's real advantage is its price. It should undercut the Prius by several thousand, and the Volt by over $20,000. Honda should have no trouble selling every last one. |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Oct 18, 2008 10:46 pm) Mercedes has the exact same problem. The ML was riddled with problems from day one, before the quality nightmares infected the rest of the German built range. The Alabama Benz interiors also don't measure up in terms of quality. The Spartanburg, SC built X5 also had horrendous quality in its first few years, but BMW seems to have improved that plant. That doesn't necessarily mean that a plant in Germany or Japan is automatically going to build a quality car though. The Mexican built VWs are infamous, but the Passat is built in Germany and has had more than its share of problems. The Canadian built Lexus RX has maintained its stellar reputation, while the Japanese built GS has become a piece of junk. |
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I know, guys, thats the real problem, I have no real preference in type or certain model as long as it fits the top3 criteria :style, performance, and comfort. However a backseat is a must, slightly snug is ok, wont use it regularly anyway. XK fails to meet the backseat criteria. I remember saying the back wasnt all that useless, I was wrong, I'm only 5'8 of course theres still room back there if I were driving. After plenty of thinking, the Slade is definitely off the list (after watching my neighbor's 07 slade falling apart). The A5 will most likely go bye-bye too, I'm concerned with the curse of 1st MY, and I dont think being CPOed will help at all. If I lose interest in x5 next time, then there will be no SUV left on my list. The xj, despite the aging looks, creep up my priority list non-stop. Too good to miss, I dare say... |
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 18, 2008 10:19 pm) It's either you hate it or you hate it less. I hate it more. This Prius is timid looking with its sub-economy Yaris looks. The Honda? At least it looks better. Their mileage will be my benchmark in terms of choosing which one. BUT I may end up buying a Lexus Prius assuming it will be differentiated with a better battery(litium ion versus nickel carbide) and AWD. If not I just may buy a hybrid Honda instead. I dont know about you folks but driving a spanking new luxury car would be a career killer in my case. Visiting my clients with a spanking new Porsche 911 while their net worths are shrinking and shrivelling would make me feel somewhat uncomfortable At least If I drive that ugly new Prius it shows that I am feeling their pain.
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 19, 2008 5:54 am) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 18, 2008 10:41 am) It's almost too obvious I have to disagree big time on passenger capacity. I love the 3 series, but unless you are a single person I see almost no usability in the 3 series. For me, a 5 series is too small between carting around my 2 kids and clients. That's why I sold my GS400 to go to an A8L. I would have looked at the XJ as well but my mother has one (2002) so I wanted to keep things different. Otherwise it would have been a serious contender with the A8 (if only the XJ had AWD).
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Replying to: theanimal (Oct 19, 2008 10:24 am) Now, that all said, I do fully understand that the rear space in a 3-Series isn't ideal by any means, and I do have a long-wheelbase XJ for comparison, but I do believe that it (3-Series) has adequate interior room and is functional enough to give the car full consideration as a primary vehicle. Could it be that your beautiful A8L has spoiled you?  TM |
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