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Replying to: pat (Oct 17, 2008 6:08 am) I also thought that. I understand that's the general concensus as well. In addition, the general concensus is that McCain ultimately lost all three debates. Which to me is irrelevant... Why would anyone vote based upon the winner or loser of a debate anyway? Personally, I think it's more important to look at the candidate's policies, plans for the future, the nature of the campaign, which reveals some of the candidate's character and integrity, and most important their actual voting record, which sheds a lot of light on what policies they support and don't support. And I stopped paying attention to the "tax" discussions, accusations, and promises years ago, when George Bush Sr. promised "Read my lips... no new taxes", and then he increased taxes. As far as I'm concerned, there are always going to be taxes. It's the general health of the economy that's much more important. My business, and many other businesses have really suffered over these past years, and I'm not all too happy about it. Anyway... sorry for the rambling. TM
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 17, 2008 8:05 am) Absolutely. Also, you may want to hold off on your plumbing plans, it turns out that Mr. Joe actually makes around $40K a year, and has no plans to buy his boss's plumbing business which itself doesn't make anywhere near $250-280K. Doh!
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 17, 2008 10:16 am) l In fact Joe the plumber is actually not even a plumber(at least a licensed one) and he still owes $1,100 of back taxes. McCain sure knows how to pick them (Palin and Joe). |
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Replying to: pat (Oct 17, 2008 6:08 am)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Oct 17, 2008 12:05 pm) But not all.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 17, 2008 1:47 pm) What's a land line? Did you mean Land Mine? Regards, OW |
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Okay, bmlexus has posted the pic I'm talking about, so nevermind then No its not a new model, they said its been around since 2004. The look is kinda boring indeed, but what Camry isnt??? The interior? the same, but the notable difference is the fit-finish, which is a million years better than american built camry. I'm baffled, a 3rd world country builds camrys better than america..... I havent posted lately, due to jetlag, save for a GM thread where someone's really burning my temper, OW I believe knows who ABT R8: Nice interior hideous exterior, reminds me of Pontiac style over-decor, well, almost. 'The M1 was a coupe, and I think there is a 4-door 1-series available in Europe. I doubt a new 8-series would be a CLS type vehicle. The 8-series has always been, basically, a 7-series coupe; an SL competitor. Now if they came out with a 4-series, that would probably be a CLS competitor. ' Nope, taylord. The only other body style avaiable on the 1-series is the 3 or 5 door hatchback. I'm not sure about the 8, we've all seen the CS concept and its been long rumored that the 8 will be based on it. Currently the 6 is the SL competitor, so I wonder how BMW will place the next 8-er. A 4-series, should one ever exist, will most likely become the CLK and A5 competitor imo. X1 is the one that confuse me, is it gonna be an Audi A2 / Merc B-class competitor or the even smaller A-class? Is BMW really going the Mercedes route that has proven to be a failure? From what I see BMW is trying to stretch the MB concept even further. "LF-A is going to be another F car for Lexus, rumored to be called the GT F" Ah, sounds like there will be a Lexus version of toyota Supra soon. Cant wait to see what they'll come up with. LW, I'm not warming up to the M's styling either, its starting to look old, the G fares better in the looks dept imo, but the M kills G in the interior design. Please keep posting recommendations, guys, they can fit for my search too esf, are you really willing to spend $51k for an A4? Because that's how much the new A4 3.2 cost when loaded, yes even costlier than a loaded 335i. I like the A4, but the unreasonable pricing convinced me to cross it off my list. On the new entries: hellooww CLS. Currently my list is becoming longer and longer, thanks to BIG and TM pulling out different (very tempting) suggestions. A5 / 335i coupe / 6series / CLS XJ / E350 / A6 / A8 / 750i / 335i sedan 6 and A5 are in jeopardy due to the 6's poor reviews on steering feel (often described as Lexus-like) and the A5 being a 1st MY, I doubt they've fixed the bugs already. The thing is I have no specific criterias other than 1) Looks good enough 2) Performs rather well 3) Comfortable and roomy enough for occasional long trips, and 4) cost no more than 45k (prefer 40 if possible, hey less is better right?). This makes finding potentials really hard to do. I'm even hard pressed to resist the temptation of current deals on Range Rovers and X5s, heck I may get crazy enough and consider an Escalade (actually the car looks decent without the bling overkill). Keep reminding myself, gas, gas, gas....
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