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Re: New Business [tagman] by lexusguy
Oct 16, 2008 (6:12 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 16, 2008 4:07 pm)

Thanks to John McCain and Joe the Plumber for letting me know that there's a TON of money to be made in the plumbing business... so much money, I might even have to pay some taxes!!
 
Hahaha. I just want to thank Bob Schieffer for actually asking follow up questions rather than just meekly sitting there while one of the candidates says "I'm not going to answer your questions, I'm going to rattle off memorized talking points".
 
To quote SNL: "Joe Biden is better than that. I repeat - Joe Biden... is better... than that."
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Re: New Business [lexusguy] by pat HOST
Oct 17, 2008 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 16, 2008 6:12 pm)

I thought the format and the questions with follow-ups were the best of all of the debates I've seen throughout the past year or however long it's been.
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It just proves that, BMW X6 has the ability to handle better than a coupe by bmlexus
Oct 17, 2008 (7:10 am)
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Re: New Business [pat] by tagman
Oct 17, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: pat (Oct 17, 2008 6:08 am)

I thought the format and the questions with follow-ups were the best of all of the debates I've seen throughout the past year or however long it's been.
 
I also thought that. I understand that's the general concensus as well. In addition, the general concensus is that McCain ultimately lost all three debates. Which to me is irrelevant... Why would anyone vote based upon the winner or loser of a debate anyway?
 
Personally, I think it's more important to look at the candidate's policies, plans for the future, the nature of the campaign, which reveals some of the candidate's character and integrity, and most important their actual voting record, which sheds a lot of light on what policies they support and don't support.
 
And I stopped paying attention to the "tax" discussions, accusations, and promises years ago, when George Bush Sr. promised "Read my lips... no new taxes", and then he increased taxes. As far as I'm concerned, there are always going to be taxes. It's the general health of the economy that's much more important. My business, and many other businesses have really suffered over these past years, and I'm not all too happy about it.
 
Anyway... sorry for the rambling.
 
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Re: New Business [tagman] by lexusguy
Oct 17, 2008 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 17, 2008 8:05 am)

Personally, I think it's more important to look at the candidate's policies, plans for the future, the nature of the campaign, which reveals some of the candidate's character and integrity, and most important their actual voting record, which sheds a lot of light on what policies they support and don't support.
 
Absolutely. Also, you may want to hold off on your plumbing plans, it turns out that Mr. Joe actually makes around $40K a year, and has no plans to buy his boss's plumbing business which itself doesn't make anywhere near $250-280K. Doh!
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Re: New Business [lexusguy] by dewey
Oct 17, 2008 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 17, 2008 10:16 am)

so, you may want to hold off on your plumbing plans, it turns out that Mr. Joe actually makes around $40K a year, and has no plans to buy his boss's plumbing business which itself doesn't make anywhere near $250-280K. Doh!
 
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In fact Joe the plumber is actually not even a plumber(at least a licensed one) and he still owes $1,100 of back taxes. McCain sure knows how to pick them (Palin and Joe).
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Re: New Business [pat] by anthonyp
Oct 17, 2008 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Oct 17, 2008 6:08 am)

I rather agree with you...The format was as though they were sitting at a large desk , and the moderator kept things pretty much on track......No matter what they both said I believe a tax increase will take place, as the government will not shrink the number of employees.....One thing is you don`t go broke paying taxes, so I guess if you don`t owe any tax you are in trouble...I further think that either person would usher in change as the path we have been on is a poor one...I think the election will be closer than the polls say, but Obama will win....I base that on the young people who are really excited by him....Most people my age are Republican, Tony
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Porsche Cayenne GTS vs BMW X6 50i vs Mercedes CLS 500 - Tracktest by bmlexus
Oct 17, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Re: New Business [anthonyp] by lexusguy
Oct 17, 2008 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Oct 17, 2008 12:05 pm)

...Most people my age are Republican
 
But not all. At this point its hard to tell how close its going to be. Everything depends on whether college age kids turnout this time. I think they will, and I also think they are underrepresented in the polls. I don't know anyone that age who has a land line.

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