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by m4d_cow
Oct 04, 2008 (11:23 pm)
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Well, for starters prices in Miami and Phoenix area have dropped by over 40% the last time I checked. Miami takes the worst hit.
Alas despite the extreme property tax for non-residents, it doesnt stop foreign millionaires from China and Canada to swoop in and buy pretty much every house for sale.
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Re: [anthonyp] by 2001gs430
Oct 05, 2008 (3:40 am)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Oct 04, 2008 9:42 am)

so the property tax is very high
I don't care if it is high for every home owners, but they seem to nail only the non res pretty good. Everyone seems to think the bottom is around 2009...
Btw, I saw the DRL LEDs on a A3 yesterday on the road and I don't care too much for them. I've seen those on the A4 and A5 in pictures, and they don't look that nice either. On the other hand, those on the R8 are the best.
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Re: [2001gs430] by tagman
Oct 05, 2008 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Oct 05, 2008 3:40 am)

Initially, Audi's LEDs are unique and have a major cool factor. Over more time it will be natural for them to be less impressive.
 
I have a mixed reaction to them. This is because I see a Vegas-style bling factor going on. I think that's the eye-candy that initially is grabbing our oohs and aahs, and they are certainly attention grabbers. But ultimately Vegas bling "rope lighting" tends to turn me off after a while.
 
TM
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Forget LEDs by m4d_cow
Oct 05, 2008 (6:43 am)
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Check out this update on 2009 A4
 
I emailed my local dealer about the 2009 A4. Salesman said no unit available yet, not even for display. So far the reviews have been good, however theres one total shocker that will make me turn away from it: pricing. The dealer refuse to come up with any deals until the cars arrive, but he quoted MSRP for a fully loaded A4 2.0T for..... brace yourselves.... $46,550 + tax/fees!!!!!!
Here's more numbers, a loaded A4 3.2 will have MSRP of about $51,000. RIDICULOUS!!!! I can get a fully loaded 335i sedan for that price, or even a decently loaded A6 3.2. Also, considering that the old 3.2Q can be had for about $46k fully equipped, then it becomes totally ridiculous. $5000 increase? What the hell is Audi thinking???
Worse yet, from the pics I see on websites, it seems that Audi has forgotten its own tradition in detailing. The plastic bumper part looks cheaper now, and where's the chrome exhaust tip? Why move the exhaust tips to the same side when it makes the car look less sporty? The interior used to amaze me, but now the shifter's surroundings just plain black plastic. The grey interior, which used to be "platinum", is now just grey, less classy than the old. Dour, to be exact.
Dealer said my complaints are spicific to only the 2.0T, saying the 3.2 fix all my complaints totally. But the old 2.0T doesnt compromise, so why does it now??
If this is the case, I'm totally disappointed, and unless I see changes, the A4 is off my shopping list.
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Re: Audi's LEDS [tagman] by jlbl
Oct 05, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 05, 2008 6:03 am)

In general I like the Audi's LEDs. Yet I like them more when I see them reflected in the rear mirror. Face to face the front LEDs are too brilliant to my taste. I'm afraid this blinding effect will get worse when imitators appear.
 
Regards,
Jose
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CB driving trip by jlbl
Oct 05, 2008 (8:29 am)
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Last month I drove with my family to Fornells/Aiguablava/Calella de Palafrugell, nice spots in Costa Brava (Spain). Among some other interesting cars (of which I did not take any pic) I pictured this Maserati Coupe at the Hotel parking lot
 

 

 

 
Not the best-looking Maserati shilouette in my opinion. Though it recalls the C12 lines, in the Coupe they have become too common, I dare say.
 

 
Now I will post some pics of the Costa Brava just to remember a nice autumnal September.
 

 

 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: Forget LEDs [m4d_cow] by clembo
Oct 05, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Oct 05, 2008 6:43 am)

I agree that the price may be creeping too high but they really upgraded the car. It is much bigger on the inside, it handles much better due to the weight of the engine being moved towards the middle of the car, and it has much nicer interior details and controls than the 335. I also think it looks better than the 335 sedan but that is a totally subjective area. The 335 has it all over the A4 in terms of the engine, it is truely wonderful to drive and rake it through the gears.
 
Audi has not been afraid to maintain higher price points lately which will come at the risk of unit sales, if the USD continues to gain back a little strength against the Euro it may ease some of the price increases that we've seen from many carmakers.
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Re: CB driving trip [jlbl] by clembo
Oct 05, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Oct 05, 2008 8:29 am)

Wonderful pictures Jose, I was in Marbella not too long ago and I was amazed at the amount of beautiful cars (and yachts) there.
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Re: CB driving trip [jlbl] by anthonyp
Oct 05, 2008 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: jlbl (Oct 05, 2008 8:29 am)

Hola jlbl
 
Man you are a `breath of fresh air`...What a beautiful country....Looks like no body has a problem in the world....You in particular Tony
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Re: the service report [rockshocka1] by anthonyp
Oct 05, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: rockshocka1 (Oct 04, 2008 1:13 pm)

It`s the las couple of weeks that hurt:) t

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