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Re: The new TL in all its "glory" [laurasdada] by lexusguy
Aug 09, 2008 (8:22 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Aug 09, 2008 12:35 pm)

And, yes, the interior seems to continue the march towards "Transformers" look. But I find it less offensive (still, much too busy...) than the overdone, heavy exterior.
 
The interior is one of the things I like least about the outgoing TL, but IMO it's fantastic compared to the abomination that replaces it. Maybe Acura should make the steering wheel into a square so they can shove more buttons on it? This definitely beats the pants off the Merc C-class for the worst interior in the segment award.
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Re: Same old story [tagman] by lexusguy
Aug 09, 2008 (8:33 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 09, 2008 4:46 pm)

I am once again proud of Toyota for showing the world that it is possible to build a reliable line of vehicles.
  
Now, if it's style, performance, and fun you are after... well... unfortunately, it's still slim pickins from the Prius-builder.
  
After all these years, it's still the same old story.

 
10 years ago I might've paid attention to this study, but with cars as reliable as they are now, it really just isn't a big concern for me anymore. There are still certain models that I would avoid, like the Mexican built VWs or Alabama built Mercedes, but JD power scores about too much wind noise and "excessive window fogging" aren't a top priority.
 
Lexus currently builds nothing that looks as good, drives as well, and is as luxurious as the S6.
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Re: Same old story [lexusguy] by tagman
Aug 10, 2008 (2:10 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 09, 2008 8:33 pm)

Bingo!
 
And that's just one very good example, of many.
 
TM
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Yikes by m4d_cow
Aug 10, 2008 (2:50 am)
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I'm starting to think a space shuttle has better logically arrayed buttons than the next TL's. And correct me if I'm wrong but I never see Acura settling for smaller, harder to read buttons in their cars before until now, right?
Oh and nevermind the transformers, even Darth vader will have a hard time figuring things out inside the new TL.
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by m4d_cow
Aug 10, 2008 (2:57 am)
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So many posters here are on their way for a new ride, myself included, wow. My case is a bit tougher though, I still cant specify what I want to buy, be it sedan, coupe/convertible, or suv. Like you guys say, take your time
 
What I'm looking for:
Obviously I go for style, and practicality isnt on top (another benefit of being single ).
Quality and creature comforts seriously considered. Good sounding stereo is a must, so is good interior quality and comfort.
Can handle occasional spirited driving (of course, different standard set for suv) and long trips.
I prefer a backseat for occasional use.
Fuel mileage not crucial, unless we're talking 10 mpg.
Good dealership service.
Defnititely no NAV, waste of $$$, better buy Garmin.
It can be new or CPO, with a budget of $45k or under.
 
My candidates so far:
(SUV) BMW x5, VW touareg, or ('09) Infiniti fx. Still cant make up my mind about the FX, still have doubts about the ride.
(Sedan) Audi A6/A8 or "09 A4, BMW 3, Infiniti G
(Coupe) Audi A5, 335i convertible, 135i conv, and -if I can get a bargain- a 6er.
 
Any recommendation? Feel free to add another make-model you think I need to consider.
 
I just realized that we completely forgot about one other image conscious car, the BMW 6-series. How come noones talking bout it? does this mean the car's been a weak seller? I wonder.... as I personally find the design pretty attractive, with only 2 complaints regarding the flabby looking rear end and the dumb wood panels that look so fake. Also, I heard it doesnt hold its value too well, a sign from car god for a bargain, maybe?
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Re: [m4d_cow] by tagman
Aug 10, 2008 (3:10 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Aug 10, 2008 2:57 am)

Recommendations?
 
Yes...
 
1. Porsche 911.
2. Jaguar XK.
 
TM
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TG by m4d_cow
Aug 10, 2008 (3:36 am)
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Thanks, but umm, aren't they a bit, over the budget? and as much as I want one the backseats in those dont seem inhabitable at all....
 
Like I said, prefer backseat for occasional use.
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Re: TG [m4d_cow] by tagman
Aug 10, 2008 (4:25 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Aug 10, 2008 3:36 am)

Sorry 'bout that... occassional use to me meant something less important.
 
Did you mention your budget?
 
TM
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Re: [tagman] by circlew
Aug 10, 2008 (4:46 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 10, 2008 3:10 am)

Yes, If I were single, the protected side drives me to the best!
 
M6
XK-R
ZR-1 (speed freak in me!)
 
Regards,
OW

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