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Hi. by bmlexus
Aug 09, 2008 (3:24 pm)
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Category: Midsize Premium SUV
 
1st place: Lexus RX
 
2nd place: Lexus GX470
 
3rd place: Porsche Cayenne
 
The Lexus RX shares much of its engineering with the Toyota Highlander SUV. The RX earned top scores, except in design and mechanical quality of its exterior and interior. In those areas, it earned average scores

 
Beats the cayenne x5 didn't even make the list
 
Category: Large Premium
 
1st place: Lexus LS
 
2nd place: Mercedes-Benz S-class
 
3rd place: Cadillac DTS
 
The LS series is Lexus's top-of-the-line model. It includes the $105,000 hybrid Lexus LS600h. The LS earned above-average scores in all areas and a final score that was the among the best of any car.

 
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Same old story by tagman
Aug 09, 2008 (4:46 pm)
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I am once again proud of Toyota for showing the world that it is possible to build a reliable line of vehicles.
 
Now, if it's style, performance, and fun you are after... well... unfortunately, it's still slim pickins from the Prius-builder.
 
After all these years, it's still the same old story.
 
TM
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Re: round trip [laurasdada] by dewey
Aug 09, 2008 (7:42 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Aug 08, 2008 3:41 pm)

Just, please, no more brutal discussions of the finances of car companies and how they may or may not keep their books! Leave the beancounting to the guys that run GM!
 
Huh
 
What's left to discuss? Speedy and exciting cars.
 
Bummer!
 
That topic now is taboo for me based on my legal situation.
 
 So far I've been driving my BMW335i even slower than the Hyunadai Sonata I rented on a prior vacation. Just to be safe I go 3 MPH below speed limits to avoid the potential catastrophe of accidentally going 8MPH above the speed limit and getting caught again (God forbid).
 
So in my particualr case corporate finances of auto firms are far more exciting than the cars themselves.
 
So pardon my lack of auto enthusiasm!
 
Oh well at least I am enthusiastic about one thing. My most favorite recreational drug is both legal and healthy as indicated by the link below:
 
Next time I see my doctor again I will thumb my nose at him when he tells me "No more coffee."
 
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Re: round trip [anthonyp] by dewey
Aug 09, 2008 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Aug 07, 2008 12:22 pm)

So you're in agriculture? I find your perspective in various things quite uniquely interesting especially since my perspective is influenced by the urban concrete that surrounds me here.
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Re: The new TL in all its "glory" [laurasdada] by lexusguy
Aug 09, 2008 (8:22 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Aug 09, 2008 12:35 pm)

And, yes, the interior seems to continue the march towards "Transformers" look. But I find it less offensive (still, much too busy...) than the overdone, heavy exterior.
 
The interior is one of the things I like least about the outgoing TL, but IMO it's fantastic compared to the abomination that replaces it. Maybe Acura should make the steering wheel into a square so they can shove more buttons on it? This definitely beats the pants off the Merc C-class for the worst interior in the segment award.
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Re: Same old story [tagman] by lexusguy
Aug 09, 2008 (8:33 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 09, 2008 4:46 pm)

I am once again proud of Toyota for showing the world that it is possible to build a reliable line of vehicles.
  
Now, if it's style, performance, and fun you are after... well... unfortunately, it's still slim pickins from the Prius-builder.
  
After all these years, it's still the same old story.

 
10 years ago I might've paid attention to this study, but with cars as reliable as they are now, it really just isn't a big concern for me anymore. There are still certain models that I would avoid, like the Mexican built VWs or Alabama built Mercedes, but JD power scores about too much wind noise and "excessive window fogging" aren't a top priority.
 
Lexus currently builds nothing that looks as good, drives as well, and is as luxurious as the S6.
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Re: Same old story [lexusguy] by tagman
Aug 10, 2008 (2:10 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 09, 2008 8:33 pm)

Bingo!
 
And that's just one very good example, of many.
 
TM
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Yikes by m4d_cow
Aug 10, 2008 (2:50 am)
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I'm starting to think a space shuttle has better logically arrayed buttons than the next TL's. And correct me if I'm wrong but I never see Acura settling for smaller, harder to read buttons in their cars before until now, right?
Oh and nevermind the transformers, even Darth vader will have a hard time figuring things out inside the new TL.
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by m4d_cow
Aug 10, 2008 (2:57 am)
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So many posters here are on their way for a new ride, myself included, wow. My case is a bit tougher though, I still cant specify what I want to buy, be it sedan, coupe/convertible, or suv. Like you guys say, take your time
 
What I'm looking for:
Obviously I go for style, and practicality isnt on top (another benefit of being single ).
Quality and creature comforts seriously considered. Good sounding stereo is a must, so is good interior quality and comfort.
Can handle occasional spirited driving (of course, different standard set for suv) and long trips.
I prefer a backseat for occasional use.
Fuel mileage not crucial, unless we're talking 10 mpg.
Good dealership service.
Defnititely no NAV, waste of $$$, better buy Garmin.
It can be new or CPO, with a budget of $45k or under.
 
My candidates so far:
(SUV) BMW x5, VW touareg, or ('09) Infiniti fx. Still cant make up my mind about the FX, still have doubts about the ride.
(Sedan) Audi A6/A8 or "09 A4, BMW 3, Infiniti G
(Coupe) Audi A5, 335i convertible, 135i conv, and -if I can get a bargain- a 6er.
 
Any recommendation? Feel free to add another make-model you think I need to consider.
 
I just realized that we completely forgot about one other image conscious car, the BMW 6-series. How come noones talking bout it? does this mean the car's been a weak seller? I wonder.... as I personally find the design pretty attractive, with only 2 complaints regarding the flabby looking rear end and the dumb wood panels that look so fake. Also, I heard it doesnt hold its value too well, a sign from car god for a bargain, maybe?

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