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Re: My bet [circlew] by jimbres
Aug 06, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 06, 2008 3:24 am)

Yeah, & for $48K you get the best $42K car in the world.
 
Back in 2001, my comparatively loaded (sport, premium, heated seats, Xenon headlights) 330i cost about $39.5K, exclusive of TTL. An '08 335i, comparably equipped, would set me back $45.6K. (To hold down costs, I've chosen not to get the factory nav. Garmin does a better job for a lot less money.)
 
That's a $6K difference that I really can't justify. The 335i would certainly be faster but I don't think that it would provide me with a significantly more entertaining driving experience. I live in a densely populated NYC suburb & I don't get many chances to put my foot to the floor. I'd be more likely to go for the 328i. Equipped to suit me, it would nick me for $41.6K.
 
Thankfully, my 330i still looks gorgeous & has never run better. I should have no trouble getting another 2 or 3 years out of it. (This is why I'd rather buy than lease. When you lease, you can't decide when you'll next go into the market. When you own, you're in charge, & you can go into the market at a time of your choosing.)
 
If I really wanted AWD, I'd look at the G35x, which will become the G37x for 2009. A loaded G35x costs about $41K. The bad news - for me, at least - is that the Gx isn't available with a stick. The good news is that the '09 G37x will probably come with a 7-speed auto.
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Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [laurasdada] by tagman
Aug 06, 2008 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Aug 06, 2008 9:13 am)

Don't forget... Even I traded in a shiny black 1er coupe for a convertible! But in my case, a 1er convertible!
 
As I originally posted to you back when you were messed up on the XKR, the Jag XK is the right car for you! Cramped rear seat is the only drawback.
 
Good luck.
 

 
TM
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Re: [lexusguy] by circlew
Aug 06, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 06, 2008 9:53 am)

Thanks..when is theA4 available, September/October? I will test one for sure.
 
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OW
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Re: My bet [jimbres] by circlew
Aug 06, 2008 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Aug 06, 2008 9:59 am)

I already tested th '08 G35x and came away with a good feeling about the car. A tick down from the E90 but still premium everything particularly performance.
 
I will plan to keep it on my short list with the 1'er but for less cost, the G37 sedan will definitely make me happy in the wallet! Power is there, just less of a dancer than the little guy!
 
Regards,
OW
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G37 Press Release by circlew
Aug 06, 2008 (12:15 pm)
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Looking forward to more info!
 
2009 G37
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: G37 Press Release [circlew] by louiswei
Aug 06, 2008 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 06, 2008 12:15 pm)

A G37 sedan seriously does not do much for me. The G35 is already pretty bad on mileage comparing to its competitors so having a bigger engine certainly isn't going to help on that front. 328hp may sound impressive on paper but in reality that really doesn't translate into much difference, a quick G35 and G37 comparison will prove that.
 
At the end, Infiniti has achieved one thing: retain the bragging right of having the most powerful entry level sports sedan in its class. I would much rather see them working on to improve the smoothness and FE on the current 3.5L V6.
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Re: [circlew] by lexusguy
Aug 06, 2008 (3:46 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 06, 2008 11:48 am)

Thanks..when is theA4 available, September/October? I will test one for sure.
 
The new A4 is supposed to hit dealers in September. There's both a sport package which adds wheels, suspension, and paddle shifters, and the new Audi Drive Select system, with comfort, dynamic, and auto settings which control the suspension as well as Audi's new active steering system (which is supposed to be better than BMW's). Additionally, the suspension, steering, throttle, and transmission settings can all be individually tailored via MMI.
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Re: G37 Press Release [louiswei] by lexusguy
Aug 06, 2008 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Aug 06, 2008 12:23 pm)

The G35 is already pretty bad on mileage comparing to its competitors so having a bigger engine certainly isn't going to help on that front.
 
The bigger engine probably wont help, but that new 7-speed automatic sure will. The big problem that the G (and especially the M) have is very aggressive lower gearing for acceleration, combined with the lack of an overdrive designed for fuel economy. If the new automatic can keep the highway revs in the low 2000s rather than close to 3000, that should make a big improvement.
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Re: [lexusguy] by tagman
Aug 06, 2008 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 06, 2008 3:46 pm)

LG,
I really enjoy the Active Steering I intentionally ordered on my 1-Series, and I have a pretty good idea of how it works and how it drives.
 
What would make the Audi's upcoming AS any better, as you suggested it is supposed to be?
 
TM
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Re: [tagman] by lexusguy
Aug 06, 2008 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 06, 2008 4:29 pm)

What would make the Audi's upcoming AS any better, as you suggested it is supposed to be?
 
I'm not sure, I just remember reading something to the effect that Audi's AS system is more natural feeling than BMW's. The last AS equipped BMW I drove was the 5, and I didn't particularly like it. The latest BMWs such as the 135i may have a better system.

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