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Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [sanjaysdca] by circlew
Aug 05, 2008 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Aug 05, 2008 7:54 am)

The only downside to the G is the efficiency from my perspective...and the 1'er test drive!!
 
The sophistication of the 335i is tempting but the price is getting rediculous... as was the power of that 135i!
 
Heck, if I want REAL luxury, I could get an 2006 A-8 for far less than a 335i.
 
I am confuse and must look to the Tao...
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [louiswei] by circlew
Aug 05, 2008 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Aug 05, 2008 9:02 am)

I know it sounds fake but I liked the G. The former one I tested was an'05 G35 coupe which was too raw compared to the 330. The current sedan looks great and has improved to a much higher level. Value proposition is tempting at the end of the day... 4 months and counting...
 
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OW
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Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [dewey] by circlew
Aug 05, 2008 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 05, 2008 9:13 am)

Let me know if you get bored with it!
 
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OW
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Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [circlew] by louiswei
Aug 05, 2008 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 05, 2008 9:19 am)

The sophistication of the 335i is tempting but the price is getting rediculous
 
AMEN brother! Amen...
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by dewey
Aug 05, 2008 (9:28 am)
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What's truly amazing is that despite these humungous US incentives MB, BMW and Audi as a whole are still profitable.(lower profits but still profitable)
 
Why are the Germans not feeling the heat as much as other marques especially when they have the most incentivized pricing in the industry? Because as anybody who bought a German car would know adding options will make any German car overpriced when compared to competing Japanese Luxury models even with highly incentivized German pricing.
 
Ofcourse German margins are becoming razor thin as a result of incentives( especially in North America ). But as we know from all those press releases the day of "Great Lease Deals" are over.
 
Most lease deals were promoted among premium priced luxury marques and SUVs that had high resale values. But today that is a different story. Ironically the fastest growth in leasing is for economy cars and not luxury cars since economy cars hold their resale values far better than in the past. Ironically BMW and MB were sold out quite a while ago of all their 08 MINI and 08 Smart Cars. If only the same thing could be said of their luxury models. When times change, fortunes changes too.
 
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Re: [dewey] by circlew
Aug 05, 2008 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 05, 2008 9:28 am)

Intuitive to the value of the G, BMW and Lexus will need to bleed even more to keep sales levels high. Pretty tough out there.
 
Heck, it might even pay to extend my lease! The payoff is $30,800 and the market value is around $27K with my current deal. Who wants to pay BMWFS extra money?
 
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OW
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Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [circlew] by dewey
Aug 05, 2008 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 05, 2008 9:22 am)

Let me know if you get bored with it!
 
All depends on the verdicts of those upcoming traffic court cases that I have.
 
I will let you know.
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ACURA VERSION OF THE X6 by dewey
Aug 05, 2008 (9:57 am)
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The never ending saga of Acura continues.
 
Guess what's possibly next? An Acura version of a BMW X6
 

 
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Re: ACURA VERSION OF THE X6 [dewey] by bmlexus
Aug 05, 2008 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 05, 2008 9:57 am)

OH MY that is UGLY
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Re: [circlew] by tagman
Aug 05, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 05, 2008 9:38 am)

So... Excuse me, OW, for not knowing the details here, but what is your exact timing here? And what are your primary feature requirements for this next vehicle?
 
TM

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