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#14394 of 19872
Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [circlew] by sanjaysdca
Aug 05, 2008 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 04, 2008 12:37 pm)

All right guys I am taking bets
 
My wager OW is not going to get G
as Louiswei said...its just there (Tao of OW)
 
Regards,
Sanjay
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Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [sanjaysdca] by louiswei
Aug 05, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Aug 05, 2008 8:54 am)

I say he's getting a 335i sedan with sports package, no nav, leatherette, cold weather package and comfort access. Oh, and with manual tranny of course. Maybe black interior with aluminum trim?
 
It's going to take a lot of convincing (like if he bought one) to show that OW didn't just put the G there...
 
 
#14396 of 19872
Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [louiswei] by dewey
Aug 05, 2008 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Aug 05, 2008 10:02 am)

ay he's getting a 335i sedan with sports package, no nav, leatherette, cold weather package and comfort access. Oh, and with manual tranny of course. Maybe black interior with aluminum trim?
 
One car that fits that description is located in Toronto on my driveway.
 
GREAT CAR!!! And it's not for sale unless I have more interesting encounters with traffic cops.
#14397 of 19872
Re: Oops, I Did it Again. (And Posted this Again...) [anthonyp] by dewey
Aug 05, 2008 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Aug 03, 2008 10:56 am)

e...Right now there are such big changes taking place, that I don`t see any car that is new and exciting for me, and the traffic around town is so thick that it is pathetic...Tony
 
My sentiments exactly.
 
I see no point in buying a new car. No SUV, crossover or estate/touring wagon can replace my wife's BMW 530xi Touring. No sedan priced like a BMW 335i is worth considering at this point of time.
 
I am waiting for that new revolutionary car that will guide us towards oil independence. I am still waiting...especially since I have no intention upon adding my name to the Tesla waiting list.
#14398 of 19872
Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [sanjaysdca] by circlew
Aug 05, 2008 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Aug 05, 2008 8:54 am)

The only downside to the G is the efficiency from my perspective...and the 1'er test drive!!
 
The sophistication of the 335i is tempting but the price is getting rediculous... as was the power of that 135i!
 
Heck, if I want REAL luxury, I could get an 2006 A-8 for far less than a 335i.
 
I am confuse and must look to the Tao...
 
Regards,
OW
#14399 of 19872
Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [louiswei] by circlew
Aug 05, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Aug 05, 2008 10:02 am)

I know it sounds fake but I liked the G. The former one I tested was an'05 G35 coupe which was too raw compared to the 330. The current sedan looks great and has improved to a much higher level. Value proposition is tempting at the end of the day... 4 months and counting...
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [dewey] by circlew
Aug 05, 2008 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 05, 2008 10:13 am)

Let me know if you get bored with it!
 
Regards,
OW
#14401 of 19872
Re: The Longest Journey Starts with one Small Step [circlew] by louiswei
Aug 05, 2008 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 05, 2008 10:19 am)

The sophistication of the 335i is tempting but the price is getting rediculous
 
AMEN brother! Amen...
#14402 of 19872
by dewey
Aug 05, 2008 (10:28 am)
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What's truly amazing is that despite these humungous US incentives MB, BMW and Audi as a whole are still profitable.(lower profits but still profitable)
 
Why are the Germans not feeling the heat as much as other marques especially when they have the most incentivized pricing in the industry? Because as anybody who bought a German car would know adding options will make any German car overpriced when compared to competing Japanese Luxury models even with highly incentivized German pricing.
 
Ofcourse German margins are becoming razor thin as a result of incentives( especially in North America ). But as we know from all those press releases the day of "Great Lease Deals" are over.
 
Most lease deals were promoted among premium priced luxury marques and SUVs that had high resale values. But today that is a different story. Ironically the fastest growth in leasing is for economy cars and not luxury cars since economy cars hold their resale values far better than in the past. Ironically BMW and MB were sold out quite a while ago of all their 08 MINI and 08 Smart Cars. If only the same thing could be said of their luxury models. When times change, fortunes changes too.
 
#14403 of 19872
Re: [dewey] by circlew
Aug 05, 2008 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 05, 2008 10:28 am)

Intuitive to the value of the G, BMW and Lexus will need to bleed even more to keep sales levels high. Pretty tough out there.
 
Heck, it might even pay to extend my lease! The payoff is $30,800 and the market value is around $27K with my current deal. Who wants to pay BMWFS extra money?
 
Regards,
OW

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