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laurasdada by m4d_cow
Aug 01, 2008 (9:51 pm)
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go with emerald green, best color ever for jags.
 
Cant beat Clarkson, definitely. He's practically the soul of TG, and brutally honest in his comments.
 
BMWs sales have exceeded others in US, but theyre still waayyy behind their original target of 1 million cars worldwide by 2007.
 
I'm currently eyeing A5s, wondering if I can get a good deal on one somehow
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[tagman] by bmlexus
Aug 02, 2008 (1:10 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 01, 2008 7:10 am)

Hi,
 
If a person like you who cares sooooo much about a car which is fun to drive.
 
Getting rid of the 911 I don't see a nice future of 911s if guys like you started getting rid of 911s.
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Re: [tagman] [bmlexus] by circlew
Aug 02, 2008 (3:30 am)
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Replying to: bmlexus (Aug 02, 2008 1:10 am)

Yes,bad for the brand! Now we know why the 1-series is beating sales targets...it's the only babe on the block in it's class and Tagman is trading out a C2 for it!!!
 
Bad,bad press for Porsche, Great for 135ier's!
 

 
Regards,
OW
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Re: [tagman] [bmlexus] [circlew] by tagman
Aug 02, 2008 (4:54 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Aug 02, 2008 3:30 am)

Thanks OW, for that pic, which says it better than words. I owe you one...
 
TM
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Re: So, What Y'all are Saying is.. [laurasdada] by dewey
Aug 02, 2008 (4:55 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 31, 2008 7:06 pm)

I never bought a used car before but with used car prices dropping like a freefalling anchor I may just do so.
 
If Porsche resale prices start dropping as much as other car models I may be very tempted to visit a dealership despite the long caravan of speed cops behind my tail.
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Re: Lexus Number One in USA? [dewey] by 2001gs430
Aug 02, 2008 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 01, 2008 7:19 pm)

Also BMW sales has exceeded Lexus sales in USA. Ain't that refreshing.
 
Yep, it must be very bad out there for car companies. Just read that BMW has abandoned its 08 profit forecast, and that q2 profit is down over 30%.
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Dada - Pull the trigger by clembo
Aug 02, 2008 (6:48 am)
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The green Jag looks great, bring $55k in cash and buy it.
 
The guy at Copley has great cars but his prices are a little crazy, I would love to get a Dino like the one he has but not at his price.
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Re: Dada - Pull the trigger [clembo] by blckislandguy
Aug 02, 2008 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: clembo (Aug 02, 2008 6:48 am)

In a post a couple of days ago, I mentioned that there were a lot of good high end cars now hitting the "sweet spot" price-wise as the original lessors (or is it leasees?) have now moved on to their next "latest thing". (You have to love the early adopters: they pave the way for the sensible among us.) This raises the question: what is the "sweet spot" for say a couple's third car. A car that you would use 8 or so months a year maybe to go out in for an ice cream after work, to summer weddings, or to use on Nantucket.
 
While I'm sure that answer varies a lot depending on individual cirucumstances, somehow the figure that comes to my mind is between 30K to 40K. In this price range you will be getting a decent car, one that offers a lot of fun. This price level would include all used Boxers, 2005 and earlier XKs, 996 but not 997 Porsches, most Land Rover Defenders, all used 9-3 Saab convertibles (don' t laugh: they are probably a lot of fun for the money and you could even use it as a ski car), M3's and maybe even an M5, all new Jeep Wranglers, even the new four door version that seems to offer a lot of summer fun, X5s, etc.
 
For less than 40K you could afford to garage it for three or so months a year and not have too much in the way of opportunity costs , especially the way the stock market is now. Additionally, the depreciation would already have been baked in to the price and if you bought the car right, you could probably get most of your money back a year or so later if you tired of it. Maybe you even have a new romantic acquaintance this summer? You could buy it with her input. It would then become "your" car as you as a couple zip around Watch Hill or the Berkshires. If you were still a couple this fall, you could go leaf peeping in it. The possibilities are endless if you buy it right.
 
I think if you bought it right, the smart thing to do would be to throw on a set of new tires if necessary, check the coolant system, install a new Optima battery in the now three or more years old car, and be prepared to have fun!
 
Incidentally, the poster above referenced Copley Motor Cars in Boston, I think that Stuart is an honorable guy with some neat cars. I think he probably has more used Defenders than anyone else in the US. His pricing, his asking pricing please keep in mind, may seem too high, but he probably is just testing the market with the BU students. The dealer-principal at the Porsche dealership in Boston told me a year or so ago that about 50% of his sales were to international students attending BU whose parents paid by wire transfer. That figure probably has gone up as the dollar has weakend.
 
YMMV
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Re: Dada - Pull the trigger [blckislandguy] by clembo
Aug 02, 2008 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Aug 02, 2008 7:23 am)

You points are well taken.
 
Watch Hill RI, Rt 2 & 7 in the Berkshires are some of the best roads for an enjoyable drive in a nice car. I go out of my way sometimes to make those drives when I can.
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BMW CPO Program & Dinan Mods by tx_buzzard
Aug 02, 2008 (9:44 am)
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I looked into why Dinan cars would not qualify for the CPO Program after Sept. 1st. I spoke with both Dinan and John Crispino, who handles all the mod-upgrades at Momentum. BTW here in Houston, John is very knowledgeable about a lot of different upgrades and was very helpful. Really a nice guy. Kudos John, kudos! Anyway here is the scope… Dinan mods are pushing some of the cars into what could be considered as the M range. Plus none of BMW’s M-cars are covered by the CPO Program as it is. Dinan was in agreement with BMW to drop from the program because it was costing Dinan more to be included than it was in repairs. So it appears as more of a business agreement and “win-win” situation than anything else. Also, Dinan mods do not prevent you from getting an extended warranty… which actually covers more than the CPO Program anyway.
 
As you can appreciate, once you start individualizing a car with various modifications and upgrades you start to narrow the resale market segment, but I really don’t think Dinan mods will have much of a negative impact. Those that know BMW and appreciate Dinan are still going to recognize the value of particular Dinan mods. Example: Currently Momentum has a M3 with over $15K in Dinan upgrades they are taking bids on due to the vast interest. So I have come to the conclusion I am not going to worry about this, and simply start going to "DA"… as I am a DINAHOLIC

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