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Replying to: blkhemi (Jul 01, 2008 1:39 pm) I am one who has historically never counted out GM, and I am convinced that GM must take dramatic action immediately to survive. I suspect they might pull it off. However, it is one thing to survive, and quite another to thrive. I'd rather see the latter, but at this point, are we to get excited just because GM's problems may not be terminal after all? What a pitiful state of affairs that is! TM |
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You are right. There is quite a difference in survivng and thriving. Hence that is why no company is thriving(slight excep., Honda), not even Toyota. In their quest to match Chevy, Ford, and Dodge, they overshot expectations and are full with Tundras and Sequoias they can't sell with 7K dollars on the hood. Tag, we must all remember that this isn't just GMs war, this is a global war. The war is not won by who has the biggest warchest, but who has the best strategic action on how to defeat the enemy, dependency on foreign oil among other major issues. Besides hybrid power that can't be built beyond 250k units a year due to supply restraints, what other plans of action does Toyota have substance? The same can be asked of Nissan and Honda. What is in the works that is superior to what the domestics have and will have in the future?
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Depressing and miserable is the only way to describe US car sales for most car makers. EXCEPT for MB!!! Go figure. |
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Replying to: bmlexus (Jul 01, 2008 12:59 pm) |
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Replying to: blkhemi (Jul 01, 2008 5:09 pm) Toyota has acquired bigger portions of Fuji which not only owns Subaru but also is a major battery maker. With such acquisitions Toyota is preparing itself to have the capacity to produce a far larger volume of hybrid batteries. |
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I did read that they raised their stakes in Fuji Heavy Ind. That was a very smart step, especially since GMs virtually none existant. How long would one guess it would take them to produce a lith-ion battery for the masses at an affordable price? Keep in mind that it was Toyota who said that it would take time to overcome the shortcomings of the battery, mainly overheating issues and costs. Lithium technology is not cheap.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Jul 01, 2008 7:30 pm) As I posted earlier, I see Toyota and Honda as the biggest winners, with the Germans coming in strong, but late to the game. And, I keep saying it, because it's true... Hyundai! Hyundai! Hyundai! (at raceway park... LOL.) The General better get to serious work. TM |
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Replying to: blkhemi (Jul 01, 2008 5:09 pm) Besides hybrid power that can't be built beyond 250k units a year due to supply restraints, what other plans of action does Toyota have substance? The same can be asked of Nissan and Honda. What is in the works that is superior to what the domestics have and will have in the future? Well... IMO Hemi, the first steps towards achieving something are sometimes the most important steps, as long as they are in the right direction. So, with that in mind, we can look at this interesting, but very tiny, "step" in the right direction.  VW’s 238mpg 1-liter Car to see limited-edition production TM
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