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Re: HADRON [dewey] by tagman
Jul 01, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jul 01, 2008 6:46 am)

Brilliant indeed! Now if only the auto industry can invent an exciting car that does not consume so much gas and is priced so that it can be sold in high volume! At least that wont blow up the earth.
 
LOL... Toyota is our friend. Honda is our friend. Big oil?.... Not our friend.
 
More on the HADRON...
 
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Here's a typical article spawning fear...
 
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TM
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Re: HADRON [tagman] by circlew
Jul 01, 2008 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 01, 2008 6:54 am)

Heck, the ZR-1's recent drive around the' Ring just blew up Nissan's world! Talk about particles colliding!
 
Bang, Bang, GT-R!!
 
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Regards,
OW
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Re: I did [anthonyp] by jlbl
Jul 01, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Jun 30, 2008 12:57 pm)

Hi Anthony
 
I am very satisfied with my 335d now that her engine is progressively being broken-up and thus delivering a quicker trottle response. Until recently I found her 'lazy' until the foot. I'm still missing the stick however; I am constantly changing between D, S and M settings. But overall her riding is a joy. Much more precise than my former bimmer.
 
As you, I'd rather concentrate in driving instead of listening to the radio when journeying. If only, I use to hear to a great music station, which keeps always tuned no matter how miles you are driving over here. This can be troublemaker, however. Music becomes too exciting to me. Then an exhilarating blend of rithm & driving can pop up in my mood. Under such a mystic influence, I can be aware neither of my speed nor the cops. Only aware of the road bents to pass through. Very dangerous.
 
Madrid tunnels are stunning, but I don't really know if it is for good or bad.
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As a German traffic expert who came some years ago to find a solution to Madrid traffic-jams said: Well... Madrid traffic solution is not so difficult to find... You should keep everything as it is, because the more improvements you might introduce in the traffic net, the more cars would enter it to ruine the result.
The only solution seems to foreseen the problems, but this is usually not the politician way of thinking. A problem does not exists until it is not a big problem.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: HADRON [tagman] by jlbl
Jul 01, 2008 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jul 01, 2008 6:33 am)

And... if as a result of these experiments, they can actually understand gravity and incorporate it into a unified theory, then life as we know it would change.
 
At LHC they would be able to create mass directly from pure energy and vice-versa. But even more, fully understanding gravity, the door could be opened to obtain entirely-differently propelled land vehicles. Thus the history of transportations should dramatically change, to say the least.
 
OK, I admit my imagination is a crazy creature, but I bet the German vs. Japanese confrontation will be continued by our sons and the youngest posters here, provided carmakers be able to cope with novelties .
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: HADRON [jlbl] by circlew
Jul 01, 2008 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Jul 01, 2008 8:31 am)

Jose,
 
Excellent post.
 
I look forward to the new technologies that are in their infancy which will forever change transportation. I am sure we have only slighlty abrased the surface in transport (as laurasdada did on his parking lot shine!) and in 20 years, old world autos will be in a museum forever.
 
1/4 mile times will be measured in nanoseconds and advanced computers (not like the commodore 64's that are in todays top cars) will be required to move people around in their transporters.
 
The vehicles we crave today will be the fun cars of the future not allowed on public roads. By then, I will be dust and my kids will be laughing about us old folks that were totally addicted to dirty energy!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: HADRON [circlew] by louiswei
Jul 01, 2008 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 01, 2008 7:01 am)

Bang, Bang, GT-R!!
 
Not so fast there.
 
That's only the regular GT-R and I am pretty sure the Spec V. will up and ante once Nissan is ready to run it at the 'Ring. Also, the LF-A has an "unofficial" 'Ring record at 7:24 so I am expecting the "official" number will be somewhere around that range.
 
Last but not least, apparently Honda is determined to dethrone both the GT-R and LF-A with its new NSX: Fukui Tells Honda R&D: NSX Must be Faster Around the Nurburgring Than the GT-R
so I think the best has yet to come.
 
To me it looks like the 'Ring record war (started by GT-R) is the new HP war. Does anyone remember who started the HP war?
 
With all that being said, I would still take a Z06 over GT-R.
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Re: HADRON [louiswei] by circlew
Jul 01, 2008 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jul 01, 2008 8:52 am)

Well, officially, I am going with the Z-06 as well!
 
I would be embarrassed if I were Porsche. "How dare they?"
 
Who allowed Cadillac on the 'Ring anyway?
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: HADRON [circlew] by anthonyp
Jul 01, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 01, 2008 8:45 am)

Hi circlew
 
When I think back, the big changes that have had a effect on our lives, the auto, electricity, mechinazation(sp?) , roads for transportation , aircraft, have all been a rather slow process that have gained progressively....Now with the doubling --in a year-- the energy that drives it all, let us all hope that something positive comes out of the particle collider.....It is fun to try and imagine what could come, but my personal opinion is that very little new information will be gleaned....I`m not a pessemist, but just because something is bigger it is not necessarily better, and they already have some pretty big machines....We`l see..Tony
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Top Gear: 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X vs. 2008 Subaru WRX STI by bmlexus
Jul 01, 2008 (12:59 pm)
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More proof.. by blkhemi
Jul 01, 2008 (1:39 pm)
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that you can never say never. Just a mere 2 days ago, most posters here thought I had lost my noodles when I said not to under estimate GM.
 
Well it happened. They posted a much lower than expected drop in sales, shoved Toyota off of it's back on taking over, and saved Wall Street from the bear all in one day. Posting a 19% decrease in sales usually doesn't translate into 3% increase in stock value, except for GM. They are not out of the dark quite yet and Im not giving the green light, but this is more proof that there is life for the maker. They still need more decent small cars.
 
OTOH, Toyota posted a 22% sales decline and the vaunted Lexus brand posted a 30% loss in sales. And there was 1% of loss in stock. Not much, substantive given that this is Toyota. What gives? They've got all of the small cars and hybrids covered. There is something more than what meet the eye.
 
Honda was the only maker to post a gain in sales and stock sales. I guess LG was right a least on this one. The Accord was up 38% for the year, no doubt do to it being a new model. The Civic continues to shine, stealing the Corollas once untakable light.

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