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Ok, A New Topic? by laurasdada
May 12, 2008 (7:25 pm)
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I've only skimmed AutoWeek and C & D's long term wrap-ups of their respective long term Jag XKs. Both appear to mention a bit of the ol' Prince of Darkness, Lucas-type electrical gremlins. A bit discouraging. I believe one or two of the folks here have XKs, care to comment?
 
I imagine the posting here has slowed down as sometimes life simply gets a bit busy, e.g. Evil Wife was in Germany last week on business while daughter fractured her ankle playing softball. Son had assorted sports so yours truly juggled work, taxi-service, Dr. appts, cook and bottle washing duties, etc. The reviews are in, I done good!
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Re: Black XF, Please [houdini1] by lexusguy
May 12, 2008 (10:35 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 12, 2008 11:02 am)

Hmmm...that XF looks a lot like the Lexus GS to me...I like it. Obviously it has a bigger engine and is faster. I'm just talking looks here.
 
The front of the XF to me seems like the result of an affair between the GS and Volvo S80, and is definitely the least impressive part of the design. The Aston inspired cues from the rear are much better. I think they should've stayed closer to the original concept cues on the front. The XF is a very impressive effort though, especially from such a cash starved company.
 
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Re: Ok, A New Topic? [laurasdada] by lexusguy
May 12, 2008 (10:43 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (May 12, 2008 7:25 pm)

I've only skimmed AutoWeek and C & D's long term wrap-ups of their respective long term Jag XKs. Both appear to mention a bit of the ol' Prince of Darkness, Lucas-type electrical gremlins. A bit discouraging. I believe one or two of the folks here have XKs, care to comment?
 
I noticed that as well in C&D's long term test car. For the record, my XK has been absolutely 100%. It didn't seem like C&D's issues we really that terrible, especially for an early model cycle Jaguar. Their long term RL was much worse if I remember correctly, but Jag is an easy target. I had many more issues than they did with my two previous gen XKs and especially my XJ-S, and in general surveys like Top Gear's seem to indicate that new Jags are pretty good, and at the very least no more of a risk than a new Audi or BMW.
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Re: Black XF, Please [lexusguy] by jlbl
May 13, 2008 (1:22 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 12, 2008 10:35 pm)

The front of the XF to me seems like the result of an affair between the GS and Volvo S80, and is definitely the least impressive part of the design.
 
I fully agree with that. The central front part recalls me this emotocom: The rest of the car is much more good looking to me. I have only seen her in pictures however.
 
XK exterior & interior styles, gas engines and handling are receiving good criticism from the Spanish specialized magazines. On the contrary, diesel engines are said not be as good as those of the competitors, when prices and performance are compared.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: Black XF, Please [jlbl] by circlew
May 13, 2008 (3:01 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (May 13, 2008 1:22 am)

Compared to BMW 550i, Merc E550 and Audi A6, The XF is the Best Babe on the Block!
 
Time to massage some steel in Germany! The Jags have it for me in the ultra sedan-class!
 
This car is close to stunning...that would be the XK-R and The BMW CS!!!
 

 

 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Ok, A New Topic? [lexusguy] by houdini1
May 13, 2008 (4:32 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 12, 2008 10:43 pm)

The RL has always been recommended and rated at or near the top in reliability by CR. Sure can't say that about Jag.
 
The long term C&D on the RL that you mentioned was a first year 2005 model. All very minor glitches, etc. Overall it was one of their favorites, especially for long trips.
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LOL by dhamilton
May 13, 2008 (8:18 am)
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Maybe Dewey is in a state of depresion [as am I] about BMW's falling residuals.
 
I work to much to post all the time anymore. I'm still here though.......
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Re: Ok, A New Topic? [lexusguy] by laurasdada
May 13, 2008 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 12, 2008 10:43 pm)

Thanks. I attribute some of the issues noted to early, first model year build, too. But two different mags, two different XK (one XKR), similar gremlins... I remember what an (uncharacteristic!) mess the long term C & D RL was, too. But they did still like it, IIRC.
 
My TL continues to be just lovely. With just a few more scratches from this winter...
 
My XK dreams may have taken a step back, the Evil (yet absolutely lovely) Wife is having a tough time at work, new regime. She's been there just shy of 20 years, but may be just about ready to walk away from it all...
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Re: Ok, A New Topic? [laurasdada] by houdini1
May 13, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: laurasdada (May 13, 2008 8:59 am)

She's been there just shy of 20 years, but may be just about ready to walk away from it all...
 
In today's business climate that is probably what they want her to do. Especially if she is a long time loyal employee. Tell her to just smile and wait for a buy out!!
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Re: Ok, A New Topic? [houdini1] by laurasdada
May 13, 2008 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 13, 2008 12:21 pm)

Plan A is to stay. The buyout is Plan B. But the last few weeks, Plan C (adios, jerks!) seems to be gaining in popularity... I'm rooting for Plan A, as are all the local car dealers! But I think she's been hoping for Plan B for the last few months...
 
Darn, I'd hate to lose 80% of our income!
 
And, of course, there's always Plan 9 From Outer Space!

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