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Re: Lexus? Luxury? [esf] by louiswei
May 05, 2008 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: esf (May 03, 2008 3:26 pm)

Your neighbor's daughter, with her $300/mo leased 328i, would probably have more features in hers.
 
If I want a PS3 on wheels I'll get my neighbor's daughter's 328i. But if I want a track ready car that can also be my daily driver I'll take a bone stock M3 without a blink.
 
1. I don't think so.
 
Go to your local BMW dealership and see what they quote you on a loaded 335i. Keep in mind that the price they quote you on is without any negotiation and there are still plenty of rooms for it to go down.
 
2. If that is true, how does it not apply to a similarly-priced S4?
 
Is the S4 a limited supply model or a mainstream one like the 335i?
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Re: Lexus Problems? [esf] by louiswei
May 05, 2008 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: esf (May 03, 2008 3:34 pm)

A RWD ES will alienate all the people that have bought it over, and over, and over in the past.
 
I have to agree with you here. I also do not see what's wrong with ES being the glorified Camry, if there are people who want it then give it to them.
 
I guess Lexus is just tired of being made fun of it for having a "Camry" in its lineup...
 
I seriously don't know what exactly Lexus' plan is for the RWD ES but it should be interesting to find out.
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Re: Lexus Problems? [louiswei] by circlew
May 05, 2008 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (May 05, 2008 8:06 am)

With the ES looks, they should put a sports package in it...I would love a car that looks like that with some heavy mods to make it run more enthusiast-grade.
 
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OW
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Re: Top Gear Magazine Comparo: IS F vs. M3 vs. C63 vs. RS4 [louiswei] by 2001gs430
May 05, 2008 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (May 05, 2008 7:51 am)

Wow, the Audi took a real beating in this shoot out. Thanks for the links Lou.
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Re: Lexus Problems? [louiswei] by lexusguy
May 05, 2008 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (May 05, 2008 8:06 am)

I have to agree with you here. I also do not see what's wrong with ES being the glorified Camry, if there are people who want it then give it to them.
 
I agree. Why not let the ES just be a better made Buick, if that's what customers want?
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Re: Lexus Problems? [circlew] by lexusguy
May 05, 2008 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (May 05, 2008 8:44 am)

With the ES looks, they should put a sports package in it...I would love a car that looks like that with some heavy mods to make it run more enthusiast-grade.
 
Lexus will just point you to the IS. They offered an adaptive suspension option in the last ES to make it marginally sportier, and nobody ordered it so it was dropped for this one. The reason they have two models at the entry-lux level is so that one of them can be a sports sedan and the other can be a boat. Making a sporty ES is pointless.
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Re: Lexus Problems? [lexusguy] by louiswei
May 05, 2008 (2:31 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 05, 2008 2:23 pm)

I really think the 2-model-entry-level-lux strategy Lexus has currently is brilliant, all they really need to do is to build a better GS then their sedan lineup is set.
 
Okay, maybe the IS can use a more roomier back seat next time...
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Re: Lexus? Luxury? [louiswei] by esf
May 05, 2008 (4:12 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (May 05, 2008 7:59 am)

But if I want a track ready car that can also be my daily driver I'll take a bone stock M3 without a blink.
 
You don't. You have a Lexus IS350.
 
Go to your local BMW dealership and see what they quote you on a loaded 335i. Keep in mind that the price they quote you on is without any negotiation and there are still plenty of rooms for it to go down.
 
The 335i is in high demand. You would be hard-pressed to pick up a new one, loaded, for less than $50K. You could try, and if it works, lucky you, but I wouldn't count on it.
 
Is the S4 a limited supply model or a mainstream one like the 335i?
 
You would be surprised at how many S4's are usually at my dealer. S5 is a different story, but the S4 is not an incredibly exclusive car. You won't see as many as you see 3 Series, but you could definitely go to your Audi dealer today and pick up a B7 for $45K with little negotiation. You did say late-model 335i, right?
 
Now, before you come out with a rebuttal, I'd like to say this argument is officially over, because it isn't going to go anywhere anyway.
 
'08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
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Re: Lexus Problems? [louiswei] by houdini1
May 05, 2008 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (May 05, 2008 8:06 am)

I also agree on the ES. They sell a ton of those things and should just leave well enough alone. It is what it is.
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Re: Lexus? Luxury? [esf] by bmlexus
May 05, 2008 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: esf (May 05, 2008 4:12 pm)

You would be surprised at how many S4's are usually at my dealer. S5 is a different story
 
LOL S5 is a different story, why is the S5 taking so long if someone orders 1 I have heard anywhere from 4 to 10 months

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