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Replying to: 2001gs430 (May 03, 2008 4:24 am) Indeed. Making a lightweight car with a big V8 at the front and RWD at the back have good performance really isn't terribly difficult, though it took Chevy until the '97 C5 to produce a Vette that could properly handle a corner. The GT-R isn't a lightweight car. It shouldn't decimate the likes of Ferrari and Porsche, but it does. That's down to brilliant engineering, which has always been a GT-R hallmark. |
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 03, 2008 7:59 am) Which is only relevant information if you are buying the hybrid. As I've said on many occasions, the hybrid version is not indicative of the quality of the regular GS versions, especially the AWD version. Even if the GS450h is simultaneously declared the most reliable car in the history of the automobile by every journalist on the planet, that still doesn't get around the fact that Lexus can't produce a reliable GS AWD, or any other GS that isn't specially hand built like the hybrid. The quality (according to CR) actually went down for 2007. The Infiniti M35x is likely to be much more reliable than the GS350 AWD, as is, shockingly, the Audi A6.
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 03, 2008 12:45 pm) I thought so. That is why I posted it. 
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 03, 2008 12:49 pm) Well than that begs the question, why would you want a GS? Not only is it not particularly good at anything, but its quality is also lousy, and in your opinion, its over priced. But other than that its fantastic? Has your wife driven the M, A6, or XF, and compared?
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 02, 2008 11:56 pm) I like that kind of response, but clearly not for everyone. TM
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 03, 2008 12:53 pm) I simply think, after driving one for two weeks that the GS is a pretty good car. I did not buy one but I might in the future. Go out and drive one for yourself. I also like Acuras. 
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Replying to: tmjdds (May 02, 2008 3:24 pm) |
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Replying to: tagman (May 03, 2008 1:18 pm) Perhaps they've been able to improve the feel as of late. The last time I tried a BMW with AS was in the 5 a few years ago. |
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Replying to: clembo (May 02, 2008 2:52 pm) I don't know anymore to agree with you or not. No matter how much I tried to convince myself that I like lexus and hoping that they take a big step to improve the RX. But I still think I like bmw better but then again bmws are very costly to repair if something goes wrong. I always hear that bmws i drive is complicated japanese controls are always better and easy to. And I prefer japanese or germany built car which bmw SUVs are not. |
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 03, 2008 1:19 pm) Clearly we do. Still, if you haven't spent some time with an M, A6, or XF, I would highly recommend trying them before making a move on the GS. I drove both the V6 and V8 GS versions when my Lexus shop had testers available. I didn't like the V8 at all. The combination of VGRS steering and the VDIM stability nanny made the car just a complete bore, not much more than a RWD ES. The V6 seemed a little lighter on its feet and more agile, and the more basic traction control was a lot less intrusive. The 245hp just wasn't enough though (the 350 has mitigated this last issue). Aside from the lacking dynamics, I found the interior to be somewhat bland and cramped, and the trunk too small. The ES may not be my kind of car, but it's very well executed for the type of buyer that would consider one. The GS to me just doesn't seem well executed for any type of buyer. It's confused about what kind of car it wants to be. The E-class and even the Volvo S80 are more spacious and comfortable, and the A6 and M are much more dynamic and exciting. The XF, though I still haven't gotten a chance to drive it, seems to be a nice balance between sport and comfort. If that's what Lexus was going for this time, they blew it. |
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