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Re: Lexus Problems? [laurasdada] by houdini1
May 03, 2008 (11:43 am)
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Re: Part 1 - BMW 135i Review, I promised all of you [tagman] by anthonyp
May 03, 2008 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (May 02, 2008 9:57 pm)

Hi TagMan
 
It was nice to read your report , both parts one and two....Further it was nice to know you were o k ...This happened to me back in the late ninties when Merc1 was doing his thing....He abruptly stopped posting and I really though he may have had an auto accident and got killed.....I went way back and found his e mail address and found out he was ok, so all was alright...Tony
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Re: GT-R [2001gs430] by lexusguy
May 03, 2008 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (May 03, 2008 4:24 am)

The base GT-R can beat its competitors without ever resorting to its price advantage the way most Japanese vehicles do in their respective classes. I can't wait to hear more about the "performance" version of this car.
 
Indeed. Making a lightweight car with a big V8 at the front and RWD at the back have good performance really isn't terribly difficult, though it took Chevy until the '97 C5 to produce a Vette that could properly handle a corner. The GT-R isn't a lightweight car. It shouldn't decimate the likes of Ferrari and Porsche, but it does. That's down to brilliant engineering, which has always been a GT-R hallmark.
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Re: Lexus Problems? [houdini1] by lexusguy
May 03, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 03, 2008 7:59 am)

As far as reliability, the GS hybrid is rated #1 in reliability by CR.
 
Which is only relevant information if you are buying the hybrid. As I've said on many occasions, the hybrid version is not indicative of the quality of the regular GS versions, especially the AWD version. Even if the GS450h is simultaneously declared the most reliable car in the history of the automobile by every journalist on the planet, that still doesn't get around the fact that Lexus can't produce a reliable GS AWD, or any other GS that isn't specially hand built like the hybrid. The quality (according to CR) actually went down for 2007. The Infiniti M35x is likely to be much more reliable than the GS350 AWD, as is, shockingly, the Audi A6.
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Re: Lexus Problems? [lexusguy] by houdini1
May 03, 2008 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 03, 2008 12:45 pm)

Which is only relevant information if you are buying the hybrid.
 
I thought so. That is why I posted it.
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Re: Lexus Problems? [houdini1] by lexusguy
May 03, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 03, 2008 12:49 pm)

I thought so. That is why I posted it.
 
Well than that begs the question, why would you want a GS? Not only is it not particularly good at anything, but its quality is also lousy, and in your opinion, its over priced. But other than that its fantastic? Has your wife driven the M, A6, or XF, and compared?
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Re: Part 2 - BMW 135i Review, I promised all of you [lexusguy] by tagman
May 03, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 02, 2008 11:56 pm)

LG... Before ordering the Active Steering, I tried it out for a while. At first, it was SO quick that I was concerned about it. After just a little while, I really liked it. The road feel isn't dramatically affected, but the steering response is lightning quick. I think there are many folks that could not handle or like that kind of ultra-fast steering response... you can practically think the car into the next lane or around the corner.
 
I like that kind of response, but clearly not for everyone.
 
TM
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Re: Lexus Problems? [lexusguy] by houdini1
May 03, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 03, 2008 12:53 pm)

Sorry, but apparently we have different tastes in automobiles. Is that so hard for you to understand? To continue going over this is pointless.
 
I simply think, after driving one for two weeks that the GS is a pretty good car. I did not buy one but I might in the future. Go out and drive one for yourself.
 
I also like Acuras.
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Re: BMW=Big Money Wasted! [tmjdds] by bmlexus
May 03, 2008 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: tmjdds (May 02, 2008 3:24 pm)

Since you had some bad experience with bmws what brand will you choose as your next car?
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Re: Part 2 - BMW 135i Review, I promised all of you [tagman] by lexusguy
May 03, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (May 03, 2008 1:18 pm)

I like that kind of response, but clearly not for everyone.
 
Perhaps they've been able to improve the feel as of late. The last time I tried a BMW with AS was in the 5 a few years ago.

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