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Re: Lexus Problems? [2001gs430] by circlew
May 03, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (May 03, 2008 4:32 am)

MERCEDES-BENZ
 
The luxury-car pacesetter reported April sales that were about flat and has posted a 1 percent sales increase for the year to date, 77,918 units versus 76,880 through the first four months of 2007.
 
C-Class models posted a 34 percent gain for April and a 38 percent jump for the year to date. Mercedes-Benz also bucked trends and posted increases for its SUVs, both the M-Class and GL-Class models.
 
AUDI
 
U.S. sales for Audi in April were 7,730 units, a decrease of about 5 percent from year-earlier sales of 8,106 units.
 
The company said that luxury-car buyers “considered the tightening economy and rising gas price as they shopped.”
 
For the year, Audi sales overall are down about 3 percent. Its A4/S4/RS 4 series of small cars posted a 10 percent sales increase in April and is up 7 percent for the year, while its A6/S6 series is up 5 percent for the year. But the Q7 SUV has posted 33 percent fewer sales for the year to date.
 
BMW
 
The highest-volume luxury-car seller in the U.S. market managed to generate an increase of nearly 10 percent in April sales of its BMW and Mini brands, to 31,448 units. For the year, however, BMW Group sales are still down 4 percent.
 
The company said that a raft of new products launched this spring – BMW M3, X6 and 1 Series, and the Mini Clubman – helped its April results.

 
BMW has increased it's pace of new offerings and the interest I noticed at the NYIAS was high at Merc, BMW, Jag and Audi. Lexus, Acura were much quieter in comparison. Just a snapshot view, I know.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Lexus Problems? [houdini1] by laurasdada
May 03, 2008 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 03, 2008 7:59 am)

Not weird at all. The car fulfills YOUR (and wife's) needs, wants and desires which makes your opinion 100% correct. And, others may not agree with your assessment of the GS as it applies to their needs, wants and desires. And so, too, would they be correct (yeah, I know I've been down this road before, but to avoid having interesting posters abandon ship in the future, maybe it's worth repeating. Or, I'm wicked bored...!).
 
What I don't understand is why some folks insist upon telling someone how wrong they are about a personal decision. And offense is taken when the party of the first part insists that they made the right decision for the right reasons. "Forget Saddam Hussein! You drive a FWD 'Sports Sedan!!!' You are an absolute monster!!! Is there no greater crime against humanity than FWD!!!" And, yes, I know someone will post that there is no greater crime...
 
It is just fab to read folks review their cars here. Or cars that they considered but didn't buy. But, you are not them, they are not you and I am the walrus! So, opine but judge ye not!
 
And, for the record, IMO the greatest crime against humanity is being a Yankees fan. Or maybe thinking the movie St. Elmo's Fire was worth the celluloid it was printed on...
 
Welcome back, Tag. I will continue to live in an envious shadow of your (and most of the posters here) garage...
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Re: Lexus Problems? [laurasdada] by houdini1
May 03, 2008 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (May 03, 2008 11:08 am)

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Re: Part 1 - BMW 135i Review, I promised all of you [tagman] by anthonyp
May 03, 2008 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (May 02, 2008 9:57 pm)

Hi TagMan
 
It was nice to read your report , both parts one and two....Further it was nice to know you were o k ...This happened to me back in the late ninties when Merc1 was doing his thing....He abruptly stopped posting and I really though he may have had an auto accident and got killed.....I went way back and found his e mail address and found out he was ok, so all was alright...Tony
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Re: GT-R [2001gs430] by lexusguy
May 03, 2008 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (May 03, 2008 4:24 am)

The base GT-R can beat its competitors without ever resorting to its price advantage the way most Japanese vehicles do in their respective classes. I can't wait to hear more about the "performance" version of this car.
 
Indeed. Making a lightweight car with a big V8 at the front and RWD at the back have good performance really isn't terribly difficult, though it took Chevy until the '97 C5 to produce a Vette that could properly handle a corner. The GT-R isn't a lightweight car. It shouldn't decimate the likes of Ferrari and Porsche, but it does. That's down to brilliant engineering, which has always been a GT-R hallmark.
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Re: Lexus Problems? [houdini1] by lexusguy
May 03, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 03, 2008 7:59 am)

As far as reliability, the GS hybrid is rated #1 in reliability by CR.
 
Which is only relevant information if you are buying the hybrid. As I've said on many occasions, the hybrid version is not indicative of the quality of the regular GS versions, especially the AWD version. Even if the GS450h is simultaneously declared the most reliable car in the history of the automobile by every journalist on the planet, that still doesn't get around the fact that Lexus can't produce a reliable GS AWD, or any other GS that isn't specially hand built like the hybrid. The quality (according to CR) actually went down for 2007. The Infiniti M35x is likely to be much more reliable than the GS350 AWD, as is, shockingly, the Audi A6.
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Re: Lexus Problems? [lexusguy] by houdini1
May 03, 2008 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 03, 2008 12:45 pm)

Which is only relevant information if you are buying the hybrid.
 
I thought so. That is why I posted it.
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Re: Lexus Problems? [houdini1] by lexusguy
May 03, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 03, 2008 12:49 pm)

I thought so. That is why I posted it.
 
Well than that begs the question, why would you want a GS? Not only is it not particularly good at anything, but its quality is also lousy, and in your opinion, its over priced. But other than that its fantastic? Has your wife driven the M, A6, or XF, and compared?
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Re: Part 2 - BMW 135i Review, I promised all of you [lexusguy] by tagman
May 03, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 02, 2008 11:56 pm)

LG... Before ordering the Active Steering, I tried it out for a while. At first, it was SO quick that I was concerned about it. After just a little while, I really liked it. The road feel isn't dramatically affected, but the steering response is lightning quick. I think there are many folks that could not handle or like that kind of ultra-fast steering response... you can practically think the car into the next lane or around the corner.
 
I like that kind of response, but clearly not for everyone.
 
TM
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Re: Lexus Problems? [lexusguy] by houdini1
May 03, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 03, 2008 12:53 pm)

Sorry, but apparently we have different tastes in automobiles. Is that so hard for you to understand? To continue going over this is pointless.
 
I simply think, after driving one for two weeks that the GS is a pretty good car. I did not buy one but I might in the future. Go out and drive one for yourself.
 
I also like Acuras.

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