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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [2001gs430] by circlew
Apr 21, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 21, 2008 6:04 am)

Limo is good...whatever you want to call it, I'll take it!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [2001gs430] by jlbl
Apr 21, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 21, 2008 5:28 am)

The images of lux MB or BMW disappear quickly when one sees vehicles with these badges being used as taxis.
 
I can only speak from the point of view prevailing in Central/Western Europe, where the image of lux MB or BMW has not disappeared because of their being used as taxis for many years now. Or as Police cars.
 
As Bristol2 said, that use only add an image of durability and strength to the brands. RR prestige was also built upon both, luxury and mechanical strength: you may recall RR's were the military "small" vehicles for the British Arny until the WWII. We recently commented in this Forum that M-B (and the Swedish division of Volvo, for instance) makes trucks, buses, vans and small hatched passenger vehicles with no damage to the brand prestige.
 
Over here M-B and BMW can be more expansive and desired but never exotic. Moreover, most of the times an M-B or BMW used as a taxi is cleaner and better entertained than the remaining taxis. Thus, passengers are willing to get into M-B or BMW taxis. In other words, M-B and BMW still are the cream of the taxi (not the limo) category.
 
May be in other parts of the planet an M-B or BMW used a taxi is battled, but then all taxis are battled as well. I am thinking in places battled themselves by war or poverty.
 
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Jose
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [jlbl] by circlew
Apr 21, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Apr 21, 2008 8:10 am)

Jose, I completely agree. Taxis must have solid build quality, durability and blended with some comfort depending on the places they are used. I'd much rather a ride in an MB/BMW than lesser cabs.
 
In the US, the limo companies purcjase "stretch" versions of everything from Lincolns to Hummers. Yes, all sorts of MB and BMW combinations have been elongated for the "party hearty" sect and ornate wedding (over 50% failure rate!!). Here's an example of my B7 LONGO.
 

 
In other words, thinking from a pure business aspect, the owner/drivers want the best not just a cheap ride for their fare...like a lowly Prius-mantis!
 

 
Taxi!!!!!!!!
 
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OW
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [jlbl] by 2001gs430
Apr 21, 2008 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Apr 21, 2008 8:10 am)

I guess your part of Europe is just as you described. If you read btw the lines, my point is that you are not going to find any kind of Lexus being used as taxis, yet!
Please don't say that Lexus is not reliable enough to be taxi cabs
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [2001gs430] by circlew
Apr 21, 2008 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 21, 2008 9:11 am)

Not so fast!
 

 
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OW
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [circlew] by 2001gs430
Apr 21, 2008 (9:41 am)
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [2001gs430] by jlbl
Apr 21, 2008 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 21, 2008 9:11 am)

any kind of Lexus being used as taxis, yet!
 
Yeah, "yet" is the key word, I think. Lexus has not taken full speed in Europe. But Lexus is growing over here too; it is only a matter of time to see Lexus Taxi Cabs. (Sure there are Lexus Cabs in some European cities though I have still not seen any; I'll keep an eye wide open to spot them. )
 
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Jose
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [circlew] by jlbl
Apr 21, 2008 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Apr 21, 2008 9:00 am)

Circlew, it amazes me those 'stretched' limos doesn't break in two halves when riding on rough streets! That B7 Longo, can be purchased directly from the factory or is stretched afterwards?
 
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Jose
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [bristol2] by houdini1
Apr 21, 2008 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: bristol2 (Apr 21, 2008 6:15 am)

You hit the nail on the head about U.S. marketing. I couldn't agree more.
 
We started out talking about luxury and prestige and how being used as taxis didn't help a brands image. Certainly BMW and Mercedes build fine cars and even though they may be cost effective when used as taxis, the original thought was yes, but it sure doesn't help their image as exclusive luxury vehicles.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [houdini1] by jlbl
Apr 21, 2008 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 21, 2008 10:17 am)

… as exclusive luxury vehicles.
 
It did not help too that M-B put diesel engines in its passenger cars intended for being sold to farmers and other rural inhabitants back in the 20th-Century Fifties (or it was in the Forties?). Yet M-B is in the lux market anywhere and diesel now is in these lux cars almost everywhere ( ). Solid as an M-B—a comfort car for everyday work, it was said back then.
 
On the other hand, I agree that M-B prestige is more damaged nowadays by the proliferation of so many models with a somewhat vulgar look (I am paraphrasing LG by heart; I am sorry if I have forgotten some hint of his real statement.)
 
Regards,
Jose

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