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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [2001gs430] by dewey
Apr 21, 2008 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 21, 2008 5:28 am)

That exactly what I thought. The images of lux MB or BMW disappear quickly when one sees vehicles with these badges being used as taxis.
 
Europeans and foreigners espeically taxi drivers know the longetivity of cars far better than us North American folks who tend to dispose of our things far too fast. Taxi drivers are forced by economics to pick German cars that will still exist after hundreds of thousands of miles of driving. Simple economics prevails in their decision.
 
Has anybody here noticed how many old VWs there are out there on our roads?Where ever I look I see old BMWs and Benzes here in Canada and overseas. There's a very good reason for that and it is because durability is one attribute that German auto makers excel in.
 
Who on earth would want to keep an unreliable VW for over 10 years? I myself would like to know why since longetivity and unreliability should be highly correlated but apparently that is not the case.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [circlew] by dewey
Apr 21, 2008 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Apr 21, 2008 5:34 am)

I'll take an Alpina B7 taxi for my own any day!
 
I am more humble by nature and I will settle for a BMW M3 e90 Taxi .
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [circlew] by 2001gs430
Apr 21, 2008 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Apr 21, 2008 5:34 am)

That would be limo, a fairly expensive taxi that the average taxi user cant afford.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [dewey] by 2001gs430
Apr 21, 2008 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Apr 21, 2008 5:39 am)

You're probably right on the longevity of these cars, but the images of old beat up taxis that you see every where on the streets does not conjure up any thing luxury for the brand IMO.
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [dewey] by 2001gs430
Apr 21, 2008 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Apr 21, 2008 5:46 am)

How much is a trip to the airport in your M3 taxi going to cost me?
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [2001gs430] by bristol2
Apr 21, 2008 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 21, 2008 6:09 am)

Like Lexus, BMW and MB being luxury only is a US-specific phenomenon.
 
Many people buy 3-series with stick and cloth seats in Europe. MB is certainly more luxurious but the C- comes in a variety of more humble versions.
 
It is only here that we are so thoroughly being sold the image of these brands.
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Cadallac XLR retract ??? by ron89
Apr 21, 2008 (6:43 am)
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I've owned mercedes for the last 12 years, s and sl's. I'am considering replacing my SL with the XLR. As someone said, mercedes is dumbing down their line with to many models, most of them look alike from a short distance. I'am not happy when I pay 80+K for and S, and some kid has a C model that looks very much like the S for anly 30+K. There should be more seperation between models, no? OK, so anyone have any thoughts onthe XLR.Looks wise, its drop dead beautifull.
 
Ron
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [2001gs430] by circlew
Apr 21, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 21, 2008 6:04 am)

Limo is good...whatever you want to call it, I'll take it!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [2001gs430] by jlbl
Apr 21, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Apr 21, 2008 5:28 am)

The images of lux MB or BMW disappear quickly when one sees vehicles with these badges being used as taxis.
 
I can only speak from the point of view prevailing in Central/Western Europe, where the image of lux MB or BMW has not disappeared because of their being used as taxis for many years now. Or as Police cars.
 
As Bristol2 said, that use only add an image of durability and strength to the brands. RR prestige was also built upon both, luxury and mechanical strength: you may recall RR's were the military "small" vehicles for the British Arny until the WWII. We recently commented in this Forum that M-B (and the Swedish division of Volvo, for instance) makes trucks, buses, vans and small hatched passenger vehicles with no damage to the brand prestige.
 
Over here M-B and BMW can be more expansive and desired but never exotic. Moreover, most of the times an M-B or BMW used as a taxi is cleaner and better entertained than the remaining taxis. Thus, passengers are willing to get into M-B or BMW taxis. In other words, M-B and BMW still are the cream of the taxi (not the limo) category.
 
May be in other parts of the planet an M-B or BMW used a taxi is battled, but then all taxis are battled as well. I am thinking in places battled themselves by war or poverty.
 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [jlbl] by circlew
Apr 21, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Apr 21, 2008 8:10 am)

Jose, I completely agree. Taxis must have solid build quality, durability and blended with some comfort depending on the places they are used. I'd much rather a ride in an MB/BMW than lesser cabs.
 
In the US, the limo companies purcjase "stretch" versions of everything from Lincolns to Hummers. Yes, all sorts of MB and BMW combinations have been elongated for the "party hearty" sect and ornate wedding (over 50% failure rate!!). Here's an example of my B7 LONGO.
 

 
In other words, thinking from a pure business aspect, the owner/drivers want the best not just a cheap ride for their fare...like a lowly Prius-mantis!
 

 
Taxi!!!!!!!!
 
Regards,
OW

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