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Re: Lexus? Luxury? [gcluv09] by lexusguy
Apr 20, 2008 (10:09 pm)
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Replying to: gcluv09 (Apr 20, 2008 7:21 pm)

Is Lexus considered a luxury car brand in the U.S market?
 
Depends on your definition of what a luxury car brand is. In terms of prestigiousness and cachet, I would peg the Lexus brand in this market just below leader BMW (leader of the mainstream luxury brands, that is), about equal with M-B and above the rest. 10 years ago the leader would've been M-B, but in their quest to have a Mercedes in every driveway with products like the C230 hatch, they have done terrible damage to the prestigiousness of the brand. A lot of Mercedes products as of late have also become much too flashy and vulgar looking to be considered prestigious in the more classical sense. It's always the S-class that has the blacked out windows and chromed out wheels, never the 7.
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Re: Lexus? Luxury? [bmlexus] by lexusguy
Apr 20, 2008 (10:17 pm)
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Replying to: bmlexus (Apr 20, 2008 8:33 pm)

The first things comes my head is when are other luxury brands going to be as reliable as a lexus, and i wonder when lexus is going to bring a competitor to compete with cars like cayenne x5 x6.
 
Infiniti (with the exception of the Nissan based QX) has matched or surpassed Lexus in reliability, so that's one. The rest are much closer than they used to be. I wouldn't hold your breath for a super sporty Lexus SUV. It's a niche market, and I don't think they have any interest in it. The FX50 though should be more than capable of holding its own against the Cayenne and X6.
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Re: And Now for Something Completely Different [lexusguy] by circlew
Apr 21, 2008 (2:42 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 20, 2008 9:59 pm)

Solo/with Evil Wife road trips only in the future!
 
What's so bad about this in a XK-R? Remind me!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Lexus? Luxury? [lexusguy] by circlew
Apr 21, 2008 (2:45 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 20, 2008 10:09 pm)

Now that you mentioned M-B, did anyone ever notice (I have many Times) that one taillight or headlight on these cars shines brighter on a lot of these cars? I always wanted to ask this because it is M-B that is proliferating of late with this issue.
 
Looks like wacky electrical currents or bad parts!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Lexus? Luxury? [lexusguy] by houdini1
Apr 21, 2008 (4:22 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 20, 2008 10:09 pm)

The only luxury car that BMW sells in the U.S. in the 745. In my opinion the LS is more than head and shoulders above this car in every respect. There are hardly any 745's even sold in the U.S. At this point the 745 is irrelevant here.
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Re: Lexus? Luxury? [lexusguy] by houdini1
Apr 21, 2008 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 20, 2008 10:17 pm)

nfiniti (with the exception of the Nissan based QX) has matched or surpassed Lexus in reliability,
 
You are joking, right? All the brand ratings are based on the entire brand. You can't just conveniently drop one product from the mix. Even if you did, Infiniti has a long way to go to match Lexus in reliability.
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Re: Lexus? Luxury? [gcluv09] by 2001gs430
Apr 21, 2008 (5:15 am)
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Replying to: gcluv09 (Apr 20, 2008 7:21 pm)

1- Definite yes.
2- Smooth, refined, comfortable, reliable vehicles
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Re: The Real Lexus Numbers in Japan [houdini1] by 2001gs430
Apr 21, 2008 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 20, 2008 6:43 pm)

That exactly what I thought. The images of lux MB or BMW disappear quickly when one sees vehicles with these badges being used as taxis.
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Re: Lexus? Luxury? [circlew] by 2001gs430
Apr 21, 2008 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Apr 21, 2008 2:45 am)

I also see a lot of newer MBs with one burned out tail light.
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Re: Lexus? Luxury? [lexusguy] by dewey
Apr 21, 2008 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 20, 2008 10:09 pm)

. A lot of Mercedes products as of late have also become much too flashy and vulgar looking to be considered prestigious in the more classical sense. It's always the S-class that has the blacked out windows and chromed out wheels, never the 7.
 
The MB S Class can be considered the top of the heap in terms of the HELC sedan segment
 
Chromed wheels and blacked out windows is not the fault of the MB S Class itself but the fault of the customers with pimping up tendecies.

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